Bali Nine executions: Myuran Sukumaran, Andrew Chan are definitely in the next group

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Bali Nine executions: Myuran Sukumaran, Andrew Chan are definitely in the next group
February 02, 2015

Review unlikely to stop Bali executions



A DEATH metal band that Indonesian President Joko Widodo is a fan of, has used its star power to call on him to spare Bali Nine Australians on death row.

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He would be in a mass of trouble if he granted clemency

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Bali Nine duo Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan will be executed this month
February 06, 2015

INDONESIA has formally told the Australian Embassy in Jakarta that the Bali Nine duo will be executed this month.
Devastated ... Myuran Sukumaran's mother Raji and his brother Chintu visit him in Kerobokan jail.
Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro
Tragic ... Myuran Sukumaran's sister Brintha has visited him often in jail throughout the years.
Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro Distraught ... Andrew Chan's sister was visibly upset on her visits to see Andrew.
Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro Remained hopeful ... Andrew Chan's mother Helen along with the rest of the family have fought hard to save their son.
Picture: Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro Efforts exhausted ... Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan wrote a final letter to the government begging to be spared from death and keep helping the community.
Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro

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I am so very torn on this issue . . . on the one hand I detest the death penalty and think it should never be used . . . on the other hand these people knew what they were doing . . . just like that horrible Corby woman.

It is irrelevant that they are Australian, irrelevant that they are Sri Lankan/Malaysian/Tamil/Chinese . . .

At the end of the day it is wrong to accept governments murdering people . . . life in jail is a far better punishment as well as being a deterrent.

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Bali Nine execution: Plans underway to move Andrew Chan, Myuran Sukumaran from Bali to an island jail in Central Java
February 12, 2015

Bali duo to be moved for execution



PLANS are under way to move Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran from Bali to an island jail in Central Java in ominous signs their execution is imminent. Supporters ... Myuran Sukumaran's sister Brintha with his family visit him in Bali.
Source: News Corp Australia Emotive speech ... Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop making a statement to the House of Representatives on Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran.
Picture: Kym Smith Source: News Corp Australia Bipartisan plea for Bali Nine pair



news.com.au

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This is what I find a bit odd . . . Indonesia pleads for clemency for their citizens to be executed abroad but happily muser people at home.

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Doomed Bali Nine duo to be transferred to Nusakambangan island this week ahead of their executions
February 16, 2015

The final journey of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran



ANDREW Chan and Myuran Sukumaran will be moved this week to the island where they will be executed.

Australian death-row prisoners ... Myuran Sukumaran, right and Andrew Chan, left, stand in front of their cell.
Picture: AP Source: Supplied Emotional moments ... Myuran Sukumaran's mother Raji visits Kerobokan Jail.
Picture: Lukman Bintoro. Source: News Corp Australia Family supporters ... Myuran Sukumaran's father visits Kerobokan Jail.
Picture: Lukman Bintoro. Source: News Corp Australia Stay with us ... The Governor of Bali, right, Made Mangku Pastika, has urged Australia not to boycott Bali.
Picture: Lukman S. Bintoro. Source: Supplied

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In the begining , Australia handed the Bali Nine to Indo .

That is to say Australia had the info that they where on the flight with the drugs and informed the Indo authorities so that they would be caught in Indo and thus subject to Indo laws ........................

Australia has also done the same with Singapore .

Australian Federal Police confirm involvement
August 22, 2005

We can't pick and choose who we deal with just because of the laws in their countries.

Mike Phelan

The Australian Federal Police (AFP) confirm Indonesian police had been acting on information given to them by Australian authorities.

AFP's national manager of border and international investigations, Mike Phelan, says the AFP has not broken any Australian laws by assisting Indonesian police with their investigations.

"It's certainly consistent with government policy and with Australian Federal Police guidelines that we have in relation to dealing in transnational crime as where the death penalty may exist," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-1...umaran/6085190

2005

April 8 to 12:

The Australian Federal Police allegedly write several letters to their Indonesian counterparts outlining the alleged smuggling trip of the Bali nine.

In the letters they name the alleged ringleader, Andrew Chan. They tell the Indonesians: "If you suspect Chan and/or the couriers are carrying drugs at the time of their departure, please take whatever action you deem necessary."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bal...260034558.html

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Bali Nine: AFP faces bitter recriminations over its involvement in arrests
Jason Om
Tue 17 Feb 2015


Scott Rush was arrested along with eight others in Bali.
(Reuters, file photo)

The Australian Federal Police is continuing to face bitter recriminations about its involvement in the arrest of the Bali Nine, including the two Australians likely to be executed soon.

Ten years after the convicted drug smugglers were caught trying to smuggle eight kilograms of heroin out of Indonesia, a barrister and family friend of Scott Rush told 7.30 the AFP will have blood on its hands once Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran are killed.

The Indonesian police had been tipped off by their Australian counterparts, who sent them most of the names and flight details of the Bali Nine.

Prior to their dramatic arrests, Brisbane barrister Bob Myers had appealed to the federal police on behalf of Scott Rush's father Lee Rush, believing the police could help the family.

Mr Myers was responding to a request from Mr Rush, who had discovered his son was heading to Indonesia.

"My thought immediately was that perhaps [Scott Rush] was going to be smuggling drugs into Indonesia and exposing himself to the death penalty," Mr Myers said.

"Lee was begging me to do something and in effect I was conveying that notion of Lee's to the AFP and they just really ignored it," he said.

Mr Myers said his federal police contact assured him Scott Rush would be intercepted before leaving Australia, but just days later he was arrested along with the other drug smugglers in Bali.

"I accepted when the AFP said what they were going to do they would have done it. But as it now transpires they didn't want me to mess up their sting in effect," he said.

My Myers said the federal police had an obligation not to put Australian citizens in danger of the death penalty.

"Why was the AFP prepared to sacrifice nine Australian lives?"

Bob Carr, the former foreign minister, said the AFP needed to better explain their actions.

"Having spoken to some of the families of the Bali Nine over the years, I think [the AFP] probably need a more robust defence of their position," Mr Carr told 7.30.

"Otherwise it looks like they allowed this ill-fated expedition to go ahead without considering the consequences with arrests being made on Indonesian soil, subject to the death penalty."

Senior officers have said very little, citing sensitivities around efforts to secure clemency for Chan and Sukumaran.

AFP Deputy Commissioner Graham Ashton has hinted the AFP may eventually reveal more about its role in the case.

"The AFP does not have blood on its hands," he told reporters last week.

"We agree in terms of Mr Carr's general point that we need to say more, but the timing around when we say more is most important.

He said the AFP was best not to talk about that matter publicly until Chan and Sukumaran's clemency matters were dealt with

AFP now required to consider death penalty

In 2006, the Federal Court ruled in favour of the federal police, rejecting a claim by four of the Bali Nine that police had broken the law by sharing information with the Indonesians.

However, Justice Paul Finn recommended the AFP and the Federal Government review the procedures and protocols around international cooperation, which were updated in 2009.

Under the current AFP guidelines, senior police must consider whether sharing information with foreign agencies will put Australians at risk of the death penalty.

After a person has been arrested or detained for, charged with or convicted of a death penalty offence, the AFP must seek ministerial approval.

Indonesia observers in Australia said allowing the AFP to share information with their foreign counterparts in death penalty cases contradicts Australia's stance against capital punishment.

Professor Damien Kingsbury from Deakin University said the AFP could have also arrested the Bali Nine when they arrived in Australia.

"The situation in 2005 is inexplicable and frankly inexcusable," Professor Kingsbury said.

"A very significant proposition of responsibility for the impending deaths of Chan and Sukumaran lies at the feet of the AFP."

Recently elected Indonesian president Joko Widodo has taken a hardline approach to drug offenders on death row.

Associate Professor Greg Fealy from the Australian National University said the AFP should take greater care with death penalty cases, especially under president Widodo's rule.

"I think the Australian Federal Police should reconsider its protocols about passing on information about Australian drug dealers in Indonesian territory given president Jokowi's attitude since November last year," he said.

"The Australian Federal Police should not be placing Australians at risk of a firing squad by passing on information to the Indonesians."

abc.net.au

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A lil dope never hurt anybody.

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A lil dope never hurt anybody.

socal is harmless, that is true

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#Coin for Abbott: Indonesians' angry backlash at PM's Bali nine diplomacy
Tom Allard
with Amilia Rosa
February 22, 2015

Angry Indonesians collect coins to repay aid

Bali: Prime Minister Tony Abbott is facing an Indonesian social media backlash over his linking of $1 billion in tsunami aid to the mercy campaign for Bali Nine death-row inmates Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, with a campaign urging people to collect coins to return to Australia.

On the streets of Indonesian cities people were asking motorists and passersby for spare change. Meanwhile, social media users were posting pictures of the money they had gathered and hurling insults at Mr Abbott and Australia.

Many also expressed their support for death by firing squad for Chan and Sukumaran.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Indonesia President Joko Widodo: Indonesians have taken to Twitter to express outrage at Mr Abbott.

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Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Indonesia President Joko Widodo: Indonesians have taken to Twitter to express outrage at Mr Abbott. Photo: AFP

The twitter campaign, using the hashtags #KoinuntukAustralia, #coinforAustralia and #coinforAbbott and growing rapidly in popularity, highlights how Mr Abbott's remarks have backfired badly in the country.

Social media is huge in Indonesia, with its citizens among the biggest adopters of the technology in the world

Speaking on Wednesday, Mr Abbott said: "Let's not forget that a few years ago when Indonesia was struck by the Indian Ocean tsunami, Australia sent a billion dollars worth of assistance.

"I would say to the Indonesian people and the Indonesian government: we in Australia are always there to help you and we hope that you might reciprocate in this way at this time."

Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop was forced to call Indonesia's vice president Jusuf Kalla the next day to clarify the comments.

Her diplomacy seemed to soothe the concerns of Indonesia's leaders. Its president Joko Widodo said he was satisfied by the explanation on Friday, while also revealing that his government had been preparing a formal rebuke to Mr Abbott.

But many ordinary Indonesians remain enraged.

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Dear, Mr.@TonyAbbottMHR : We will give ur money back. Please send the bill. Thank you. #CoinForAustralia

The campaign originated in Aceh, the Indonesian province that was hit hardest by the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004 that killed more than 100,000 people there.

Among those behind the campaign are victims of the tsunami.

Muhammad Riza, a victim of the tsunami, said Mr Abbott's comments were "childish"

"It's not making any sense. How can aid be mentioned again?," he said. "If they weren't sincere, the community will give it back" he told Tempo, an Indonesian media outlet.

On Twitter, Mr Riza said the Australian prime minister was "seungke", referring to an Acehnese saying that those who take back a gift will suffer a skin condition on their elbow.

Meanwhile, supporters of Chan and Sukumaran brought more than 100 bunches of flowers to Kerobokan prison to thank the governor and guards - as well as the Australians - for their efforts to introduce rehabilitation programs in the penitentiary.

The flowers were organised by the Mothers for Mercy organisation, a Bali-based group.

While there is sympathy for the duo in Bali, especially among expatriates, it does not extend much beyond the confines of the holiday island.

Unlike the rest of Indonesia, many Balinese are aware of the extraordinary reforms at Kerobokan instigated by the Chan, Sukumaran and the prison staff.

smh.com.au

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Keep collecting coins, you feeble-minded morons . . . yours is a corrupt and vile country that has broken more human rights than most others, be it what you laughingly call Irian Jaya to East Timor to the Moluccas etc.....

You get all girlie when Brazil snubs your proposed new Ambassador and are so hung up on murdering people that you actually do so with pride.

Keep the Bali 9 scum in jail for as long as you want but don't murder them to satisfy your selective bloodlust . . . or how about giving them week-end passes like you do your own murderers of Australians, among others.

Your people are uneducated, moronic sheeple, instituting anti-Chinese pogroms every few years to take the attention off your lice-ridden so-called democracy/kleptocracy and your governments are nothing more than ways and means for the ones with half a brain to help themselves to more riches than most people in the world have ever seen.

Y'all have a nice day now, y'hear