Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Does God Exist?

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    I find that Atheists often believe that they are 'normal' and that it is the rest of people that are abnormal - this is what sometimes makes them come across as arrogant. However, what they are essentially saying is that they dont have any understanding or knowledge of what started life/universe, but it is their belief that it was not a 'God/s'. IMO that is a fair enough view - but it is not often conveyed that way by Atheists.

    What arrogant/rude Atheists do is claim that God doesn't exist and that anyone who does believe in a God/s is irrational and/or ignorant and/or stupid. Some of them when challenged will demand that you prove God exists, knowing that you cannot. Those types of 'intellectual' Atheists fail to grasp the concept that what they are saying is that a God did not create the universe/life, but they dont know what did, but they know it was not a God/s. What they fail to accept (and strongly deny) is that they too have a 'belief system' that has no empirical or scientific evidence to substantiate it's fundamental assertion.

    No I dont believe in Atheism. But I also dont believe in most parts of most Religions.

    God? I am open to the idea/belief. And I guess one day I will find out .... but not just yet.
    If I dont respond it is because: A) Libtard; B) Blocked Libtard; C) Playing Golf

    Comment


    • #32

      Comment


      • #33
        Atheism isn't a belief system, just as not playing football isn't a sport.

        As noted earlier, it is not a requirement to know how the universe originated to join the club. God believers don't know either, they believe in their respective creation myths.

        It doesn't bother me much, unless religious people try to push their beliefs either through trying to convert me or by imposing more of their rules in the public sphere - and there are already plenty which have religious origins in most nations.
        Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
        What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.


        https://thailandchatter.com/core/ima...ies/giggle.gif

        Comment


        • #34
          The trouble with heaven is that it sounds very 🍹 Boreing, sitting on a white cloud playing the harp all day. 🍸
          No internet, no Wifi, 🌞
          Probably banned in heaven.🔥

          Comment


          • #35
            The ancients had a good handle on some of this.
            Been reading lately about Sophia and Gnosticism.

            In a nutshell humanity is currently de-evolving.... certainly not evolving given the current ongoing social and environmental catastrophy.....

            Comment


            • #36
              Fall of Rome and all that. Too bad for us.

              Comment


              • #37
                Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                Atheism isn't a belief system, just as not playing football isn't a sport.
                As noted earlier, it is not a requirement to know how the universe originated to join the club. God believers don't know either, they believe in their respective creation myths.
                .
                That is in itself a very contradictory statement - which I note many Athiests also state.
                "I dont believe in anything - I just dont believe in God."

                And I noted your earlier statements:

                "Though one may describe Atheism as a school of thought, all it takes to be an atheist is the absence of a belief in god(s)."

                "...
                it is not the duty of atheists do be knowledgable about these and present them as an alternative to folks who wonder how the universe could have started without a creator god."

                But I must contradict your claims (and that of many Athiests) that you are not 'involved'. Yes you are. The very fact that you disagree with the existence of a God/s, means that you have acknowledged the issue of 'existence' and have decided that you do not believe it was/is a God that created everything.

                The only alternative to being involved, is to be like a bird in a tree or an animal in a field - you are not aware of, do not acknowledge, and do not accept the reality of 'existence'. Therefore, you should have no opinion at all on the subject.

                But you do have an opinion. You acknowledge creation, but do not accept that a God/s were involved. You believe it was something else that 'created existence'. And that is what Atheism is - the belief that there is no God/s - the existence of which only begins when the issue of existence is accepted and addressed.

                Atheists believe the Universe et all (creation) is an issue that does not require the existence of a God to explain, nor the involvement of a God to rationalise. Atheists believe 'something else' is the reason for existence.

                However, although somewhat arrogant, I do agree with your first statement : "Religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it does not understand". But that is not the issue - the issue is not Religion, it is the existence of God/s. Therefore IMO you are really against Religion and do not believe in it as a solution to the paradox of existence, and on that point we agree.




                If I dont respond it is because: A) Libtard; B) Blocked Libtard; C) Playing Golf

                Comment


                • #38
                  "I dont believe in anything - I just dont believe in God."
                  What kind of nonsense is this, is it supposed to be a summary of something I have said?

                  But I must contradict your claims (and that of many Athiests) that you are not 'involved'. Yes you are. The very fact that you disagree with the existence of a God/s, means that you have acknowledged the issue of 'existence' and have decided that you do not believe it was/is a God that created everything.
                  I don't 'disagree' with the existence of god(s), it's rather that I am not convinced of their existence. It is on the one who makes the claim to provide proof/compelling arguments, specially if they want others to behave according to rules their religion demands.

                  The arguments for some gods are more plausible than others, for some it just seems a bit silly - stories and superstitions made up by man.
                  The only alternative to being involved, is to be like a bird in a tree or an animal in a field - you are not aware of, do not acknowledge, and do not accept the reality of 'existence'. Therefore, you should have no opinion at all on the subject.
                  Of course I am 'involved', I have lived in different cultures and been influenced by their beliefs. Thanks, I decide for myself what I have an opinion on and on which grounds.

                  But you do have an opinion. You acknowledge creation, but do not accept that a God/s were involved. You believe it was something else that 'created existence'. And that is what Atheism is - the belief that there is no God/s - the existence of which only begins when the issue of existence is accepted and addressed.

                  Atheists believe the Universe et all (creation) is an issue that does not require the existence of a God to explain, nor the involvement of a God to rationalise. Atheists believe 'something else' is the reason for existence.
                  Atheists have differing positions on this, maybe there was no creation and no beginning, and no 'reason'?

                  It should be apparent by now, that I am not a 'hard' atheist who goes around telling people their gods don't exist.
                  I find the subject of comparative religion fascinating, specially how some creation myths seem to fit as figurative explanations of the latest findings of science.

                  However, although somewhat arrogant, I do agree with your first statement : "Religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it does not understand". But that is not the issue - the issue is not Religion, it is the existence of God/s. Therefore IMO you are really against Religion and do not believe in it as a solution to the paradox of existence, and on that point we agree.
                  Not my words, a provocative quote from Marx. But yes, we sort of agree there, though I am not against religion, but think its influence should be limited and kept seperate from the state.
                  Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
                  What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.


                  https://thailandchatter.com/core/ima...ies/giggle.gif

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                    What kind of nonsense is this, is it supposed to be a summary of something I have said?

                    I don't 'disagree' with the existence of god(s), it's rather that I am not convinced of their existence. It is on the one who makes the claim to provide proof/compelling arguments, specially if they want others to behave according to rules their religion demands.

                    The arguments for some gods are more plausible than others, for some it just seems a bit silly - stories and superstitions made up by man.
                    Of course I am 'involved', I have lived in different cultures and been influenced by their beliefs. Thanks, I decide for myself what I have an opinion on and on which grounds.

                    Atheists have differing positions on this, maybe there was no creation and no beginning, and no 'reason'?

                    It should be apparent by now, that I am not a 'hard' atheist who goes around telling people their gods don't exist.
                    I find the subject of comparative religion fascinating, specially how some creation myths seem to fit as figurative explanations of the latest findings of science.

                    Not my words, a provocative quote from Marx. But yes, we sort of agree there, though I am not against religion, but think its influence should be limited and kept seperate from the state.
                    Up to you to disagree with my opinion of your opinion, but I think we have more common ground than we have no-mans land. I agree 100% - Religion must be kept seperate from the State/Laws and IMO not doing that has caused more human deaths than the mosquito. Who can truly say they know what/who God is/thinks, and therefore force others to comply with their views/values of God/s. But more wars have been started exactly that way than through any other cause. Right now the vast majority of human suffering is directly or indirectly caused by Religion. It has a lot to answer for IMO, and one day it will be held to account. As soon as most People come around the the view that God is not any specific Religion (or become Atheists), then humankind will truly 'progress'.
                    If I dont respond it is because: A) Libtard; B) Blocked Libtard; C) Playing Golf

                    Comment

                    Valentina Jewels gets pounded like a btich dog ?????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ???? diferentes tipos de bajinas
                    antalya escort bayan
                    Working...
                    X