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Mid
08-28-2014, 06:25 PM
TAT plans to extend visa stay for tourists to raise revenue (http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNECO5708280010005)
Surapan Laotharanarit

BANGKOK, 28 August 2014 (NNT) – The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is considering adopting some measures to maximize tourism revenue, including extending visitors’ visa stay, as this year’s earning is likely to be lower than targeted.

TAT Governor Thawatchai Aranyik estimated that Thailand’s income from tourism this year will miss its 2.2-trillion-baht target, accumulating to 1.9 trillion baht, divided into 705 billion baht from foreigners and 1.2 trillion baht from locals. At the same time, the number of foreign visitors could be about 25.5 million, a drop of 3.34 percent compared to the goal of 28 million.

Therefore, the Governor revealed that the TAT is preparing to propose a range of tourism stimulus measures to the Ministry of Tourism and Sports for consideration. One of the measures is the doubling of stay for tourist visa holders which would, for example, allow European tourists to remain in the Kingdom for as long as 60 days, as opposed to the current 30-day limit.

The TAT will also seek to maintain the visa fee waiver for Chinese and Taiwanese passport holders for a bit longer. Mr Thawatchai pointed out that Thailand needs to step up its game after many countries, especially Japan, have already exempted visa fees for visitors, leading to a fiercer competition.

The TAT Governor added that Thailand’s newest tourism campaign promoting the Thai ways of living will be introduced at the World Travel Mart 2014 in London, England this November while its official domestic launch is scheduled in January next year. The campaign is expected to help bring the country closer to its tourism revenue target of 2.2 trillion baht a year.

thainews.prd.go.th

Mid
08-28-2014, 06:25 PM
foot , point blank , bulls eye :mid:

Texpat
08-28-2014, 06:40 PM
Wait until all the tourists see the military roadblocks, the generals droning away on the telly everyday, the alcohol bans and restrictions, the dire warnings about criticizing anything except the US embassy, or eating a sandwich in public.
Why would they ever want to leave? It's practically paradise. :popcorn:


tourism revenue target of 2.2 trillion baht a year

I'm certain I read a few days ago, on this forum, where the tourism revenue was roughly B 309 billion -- (about 10 percent of Thailand's GDP)

Texpat
08-28-2014, 07:14 PM
^ nevermind, in the other thread GDP was expressed in USD, not baht.

Ampersand
08-28-2014, 07:16 PM
Why would they ever want to leave? It's practically paradise.

Right! Once they leave, they "Return to Happiness". :mid: I think the TAT is preparing its 2015 international campaign, next year theme is "Thainess" :rotfl:


Apropos... What is TC's management doing for us, members, to successfully "Return to Happiness" ? Where's the roadbook?

MrBlobby
08-28-2014, 08:14 PM
How does 2 months "maximise returns"

Better just to,open the borders to do that EH!

serrollt
08-31-2014, 06:44 PM
One of the measures is the doubling of stay for tourist visa holders which would, for example, allow European tourists to remain in the Kingdom for as long as 60 days, as opposed to the current 30-day limit.
Don't those morons know their own visa system?
It's 60 days with a tourist visa, 30 days without one.

oldgit
09-11-2014, 03:47 PM
So how much is a VOA ( Visa on arrival from airport) for two months stay? could not see snywhere.

Mr Pumblechook
09-11-2014, 05:30 PM
These Muppets just cracked down on tourist visas and now they want to reverse their foolish decision.

serrollt
09-16-2014, 04:50 AM
"They" are the clueless TAT morons, no relation to the legislators or immigration who implemented the recent changes.

Mid
09-18-2014, 05:06 PM
No sign of a rebound: Thailand tourist arrivals down more than 10% in August (http://asiancorrespondent.com/126755/no-sign-of-a-rebound-thailand-tourism-arrivals-down-more-than-10-in-august/)
Sep 18, 2014

Exports and tourism have long been key reasons for Thailand’s good economic performance over the last two decades. Exports are down .42% (http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Govt-to-revise-down-export-target-30242484.html) in the first 7 months of the year, but bad tourism numbers are also a worry.

TTR Weekly (http://www.ttrweekly.com/site/2014/09/thailand-loses-more-tourists/):

International tourist arrivals to Thailand posted a decline of 10.66%, January to August, this year, according to the Ministry of Tourism and Sports.

Released late last week, the ministry reported 15,703,373 visits to the country during the first eight months, down just short of 2 million visits, from 17,576,342 over the same period last year.



The ministry’s permanent secretary, Suwat Sidthilaw, said the year would close with with 25.5 million visits and THB1.8 trillion in tourism related revenue.

The original target was 28 million foreign visitors and THB2 trillion in tourism-related income.



BP: That would be a loss of 200 billion baht in expected revenue. To put the tourism numbers in context, see the below two charts that BP has made from World Bank Data (http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_):


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/15257860311_99cf34938c_o.png (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60433209@N00/15257860311)

BP: The above is in numbers. The below is in revenue (slightly skewed as in US$ so some fluctuation depending on the baht, but still up more than 350% since 1996)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/15074272930_1ca3997bdd_o.png (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60433209@N00/15074272930)

BP: The above is up until 2012 only. TAT with 2013 numbers (http://www.tatnews.org/thailand-welcomed-26-7-million-visitor-arrivals-in-2013-exceeding-target/#sthash.t6JgKScs.dpuf):

Thailand has welcomed a total of 26,735,583 visitor arrivals in 2013, exceeding the year’s original target of 26.1 million and representing a 19.6 per cent increase over 22,353,903 international tourists in 2012.



BP: So a bumper year last year

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5594/15261117955_f9ab352367_o.png (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60433209@N00/15261117955)

Source: Department of Tourism (http://www.tourism.go.th/home/details/11/221/23044) (NOTE: For both charts, downloaded the XLS file and then removed some breakdown for most countries – while keeping the regional totals – and then did screenshots)


BP: As you will see the decline is biggest from Asia countries whereas tourists from Europe are actually up. In case you were wondering, whether the decline is all prior to the coup and the immediate aftermath of the coup when a curfew was in place, well the answer is “no”.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5568/15074552908_c0a6e13396_o.png (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60433209@N00/15074552908)

Source: Department of Tourism (http://www.tourism.go.th/home/details/11/221/23044)


BP: As you will see that the decline in August is actually higher than the average decline for the first 8 months so there is no evidence that tourism has rebounded.

Tourism is unlikely to be helped by the recent grisly killing of two young Britons in Koh Tao and the comments from Prayuth, as outlined (http://asiancorrespondent.com/126776/thai-pm-after-koh-tao-murders-can-tourists-be-safe-in-bikinis/) by Saksith, which give the impression of casting blame on the victims which has not gone down well in the UK.* Then, you have this Reuters article (http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0HB1C020140916?irpc=932) with the headline “PM says Thailand not always safe for tourists after murder of Britons”. Key excerpts:

Thailand’s prime minister said on Tuesday the country was not always as safe for foreign visitors as their homelands, after the murder of two British tourists dealt a blow to the southeast Asian nation’s image.

….

“What you (the media) need to do is explain to foreigners that it is not always safe everywhere. They think it’s safe like where they are from, everywhere and at any time, but our country still has problems.”



BP: Not sure Prayuth’s comment will get much as play in the mainly compliant Thai press compared with if Yingluck had said it….

With stagnant exports and declining tourism numbers, GDP growth in 2014 is likely to be less than 2%. People who are upset or have grievances have few avenues of complaint given how restrictive martial law is, but it is hard to keep discontent and frustrations bottled up forever. If the poor economic growth continues in the next 3-6 months then it will be difficult to keep a lit on this discontent and frustrations….

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BP: It is not just the Mail either, The Independent‘s headline (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thailand-beach-murders-thai-pm-suggests-attractive-female-tourists-cannot-expect-to-be-safe-in-bikinis-9737016.html) “Thailand beach murders: Thai PM suggests ‘attractive’ female tourists cannot expect to be safe in bikinis”….

asiancorrespondent.com

Charles
09-19-2014, 12:59 AM
The military government is clearly not practiced in the subtleties of international diplomacy.
That can be accepted up to a point, but sooner or later they will have to be more honest about both the good, and bad side of life for visitors.

I am pleased that the military government appears to be cracking down on corruption, scammers and illegal vendors, travel and environmental abuses.
It remains to be seen if they have underestimated the size of the problem or the ingrained endemic nature of it.

It is also encouraging that the PM has declined the opportunity to form a political party. That at least enables some sense of fairness may be possible without party political bias?

Thormaturge
09-19-2014, 02:55 AM
^
You're not in business here, are you Charles?

The only way corruption has been reduced is by making the price higher, thereby forcing the smaller players, who can't afford the new prices, out of the game.

It I were running this show I wouldn't want any opposition either.

Chitown
09-19-2014, 08:16 AM
I always am told that tourism in Thailand is not a big factor for the Thailand economy. I think it does.

Also, I figure they do not count all of the long stay farangs that buy their girl's houses and land, ma and pa's houses, family vehicles, washing machines, furniture, giving their step kids / own Thai kids a better life and so much more. Some also spend a hundred thousand baht or more a month playing around. Others spend fortunes for health care paying double and triple the Thai price for medical expenses.

Panama Hat
09-19-2014, 01:48 PM
I always am told that tourism in Thailand is not a big factor for the Thailand economy. I think it does.


Whoever tells you that is an idiot. It is a direct 10%+ of GDP and goodness knows how much more on a flow-on effect.


T
It is also encouraging that the PM has declined the opportunity to form a political party. That at least enables some sense of fairness may be possible without party political bias?

Thise are very, very rose-colored glasses, Charles.

Look at t this way . . . why the need for a political party where they may need to bow to the majority of the population and be voted out of power . . . this way they can stay in as long as they wish without opposition

Charles
09-20-2014, 03:07 PM
Thise are very, very rose-colored glasses, Charles.

Look at t this way . . . why the need for a political party where they may need to bow to the majority of the population and be voted out of power . . . this way they can stay in as long as they wish without oppositionRose tinted deliberately. As you correctly point out they can stay in power as long as they want, irrespective of political bias.

If you have enjoyed the chaos of recent years you will understand why the lack of petty political manouvering is so refreshing. Not saying it's perfect just a better atmosphere.

Thormaturge Accepted and admitted. I am retired and prefer a peaceful coup to the Bangkok Spring we just endured. The increase in business costs are unfortunate. Sorry for that.

Mid
09-20-2014, 03:14 PM
Rose tinted deliberately. As you correctly point out they can stay in power as long as they want, irrespective of political bias.

Impossible to keep the lid on a pot of boiling water , be careful of what you wish for .