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Thai police relegating most of their duties lately to 7-11 clerks. Sounds about right.
Rest assured, they will make no changes unless there's something in it for them. Massive penalty for a lost card? Thousands of baht to have the card issued? RFID used to track cardholders? Use it as a foreigner ID card (mandatory to carry at all times $$$?)
If you believe for a second that anything they will do is for the convenience and benefit of foreigners, and not themselves, I believe you have your cranium in your anus.
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Originally posted by Texpat View PostThai police relegating most of their duties lately to 7-11 clerks. Sounds about right.
Rest assured, they will make no changes unless there's something in it for them. Massive penalty for a lost card? Thousands of baht to have the card issued? RFID used to track cardholders? Use it as a foreigner ID card (mandatory to carry at all times $$$?)
If you believe for a second that anything they will do is for the convenience and benefit of foreigners, and not themselves, I believe you have your cranium in your anus.
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I agree with you Charles, that's not a bad idea. But you're thinking like a westerner. As long as foreigner-immigration contacts are viewed as opportunities, it'll never happen, unless there's another scheme to maintain the number of contacts. Every time whitey walks through the door at immigration, it's a potential payday. They're not going to give that up easily.
They should consider dropping the pretense and just have 7-11 sell the driver's licenses, too.
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If immigration was inclined to streamline 90 reporting of addresses the ideal solution would be to eliminate it. I understand the need to know the where abouts of foreigners. Requiring foreigners to report their address if changed since the last reported would fullfill the objective. Making 90 day reporting more convenient is fine but much better to dump the whole 90 day scheme. I worked with immigration years back. Got to know the head man of the immigration police. Agreed with him re the need but after a bit of discussion about the 90 day requirement he admitted it was put in place to generate revenue via the 2k baht fine if one fails to do the report. Tex is right. Immigration views us, it's customer, a source of revenue. Not unusual when dealing with a government bureaucracy. A visit to the US Embassy for any reason always results in a decrease in my net worth.
While a welcomed change, changing the 1 year extension to stay requirement to 3 years is much more problematic. Specifically in the 85k per month/800k per year financial requirement. Could be done but pretty sure change will be filed in the too hard box.Last edited by Norton; 10-25-2014, 07:42 AM.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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Originally posted by Charles View PostIt would make sense to add the required info to your Thai drivers licence and just swipe it through a card reader in 7/11. If you are here long term, it makes sense to get and carry a Thai Driving licence for insurance and ID anyway.Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.
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Originally posted by serrollt View PostNot everybody has or wants to have a DR. DRs have nothing to do with immigration anyway, it's a different department.
Most of those who choose to live here long term, need a DL even if it is only for a motor cycle. I fail to see your objection unless you go everywhere by taxi or public transport.
Even if that were the case, a DL costs only a few hundred baht and is ridiculously easy to obtain. It is a legal requirement for any one who is on a long term visa here if they want to drive.
It has the magnetic strip so your info can be verified and updated where necessary. What is your problem with it?
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the DL is a commonly accepted form of ID for any foreigner. I have used mine in hotels, police checkpoints and to gain Thai price access to national parks.
Only passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in. Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.
Maybe a one-for-all electronic card is future music, but I don't see it now and the downside, centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.
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Originally posted by serrollt View PostOnly passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in.
Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.
centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.
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Originally posted by serrollt View PostYou've been lucky.
Only passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in. Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.
Maybe a one-for-all electronic card is future music, but I don't see it now and the downside, centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.
It would also answer Jao tin's issue with 7-11 staff language skills. If a farang goes to a 7-11 counter and hands over his DL, it can only mean one thing. he needs the card swiped and his 90 day report recorded. No need even to speak, just smile. Even the dumbest 7-11 clerk could be taught to do that.
I have never had language issues with 7-11 staff, out here in the sticks or in tourist areas or the capital.
Anyway Stroller, you will have to report to immigration with yours but at least it won't be so crowded.
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Originally posted by Texpat View PostLiberal ****tards in the US and Europe consider that an invasion of privacy and a human rights violation. Why do you find it acceptable here?
Ignorant seppo...
Why are hotels charged with policing? I thought that was 7-11's responsibility.
Anyway, if you have your wife/girlfriend/ladyboy lover check in, nobody asks squat. What's the point in that fruitless exercise in bureaucratic masturbation?
Seig Heil! Veah ahh your paperz? You must feel right at home with Thailand's new martial law policy. I'm developing an understanding of how Warsaw Jews felt, circa 1940. Put the info into a DL magnetic strip and a cop can verify it at any 7-11.
Stupid seppo.
But handing over your passport information to a hotel clerk is OK? You are a walking, talking contradiction.
Silly seppo.Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.
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Originally posted by serrollt View PostIt's been a requirement to carry your passport in Thailand long before martial law.
Minor point. No intent to interrupt the gripping seppo/kraut debate.
Carry on.Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
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