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Mid
04-20-2016, 05:22 PM
Thailand wants foreigners social media, bank account details (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_THAILAND_PERSONAL_QUESTIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-04-20-05-29-59)
Apr 20

BANGKOK (AP) -- Want to live in Thailand? No problem, say Thai authorities. Just be prepared to reveal your social media habits, bank account information and the restaurants and night clubs where you hang out.

Thai authorities are now asking - but not requiring - expatriates to fill out an elaborate form that asks a variety of personal information in the name of national security and crime prevention.

Police Maj. Gen. Chatchawan Wachirapaneekhun, an official at the Immigration Bureau, said Wednesday that an increase in the country's foreign population has led to more crimes by foreigners and the questionnaire helps maintain a database.

He says the effort was a police initiative and not by the military-ruled government, which has been criticized for cracking down on civil liberties in Thailand.

ap.org

sabang
04-21-2016, 10:07 PM
It seems to be only in Bkk, at the place where foreign journo's renew their visa's. So far.

Delayed
04-22-2016, 11:45 AM
As the noose tightens. First journalists then anyone who may be a problem. Had to give passport number to get free wifi in bkk on my last visit.

Mid
04-22-2016, 04:06 PM
Thailand: Foreigners vexed by ‘intrusive’ immigration forms (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/04/thailand-foreigners-vexed-by-intrusive-immigration-forms/)
22nd April 2016

https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Thailand-Chinese-Tourists2014940-940x580.jpg Pic: AP.

FOREIGNERS in Thailand appear to be rattled by the Immigration Bureau’s request for sensitive information through a new immigration form. The form asked for their banking details, social media accounts, and frequent hangouts.

The form appeared to strike a raw nerve with foreigners residing in the kingdom for short or long periods, as they found it to be intrusive to their privacy.

Writer Chris Wotton, 27, said he was shocked by the contents of the three-page form that needed to be filled while applying for a re-entry permit at the One-Stop Service Centre at Chamcuri Square.

“One part of the form was particularly ridiculous — asking for places ‘frequented’. This is just crazy. Should I put down every local stir-fry restaurant, som tum stall, bar and 7-eleven convinience store I visit? The form asks for very personal information,” he was quoted saying in The Bangkok Post (http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/942457/intrusive-form-irks-travellers-expats).

Another expatriate, a 33-year-old Canadian national who declined to be named, said he was not comfortable with giving the information away.

“I have not faith in any government’s ability to protect my private information.”

If anything, the foreign immigration forms are a nod towards Thailand's lack of bureaucratic efficiency even at the lowest level.
— Patra (@psukhie) April 22, 2016 (https://twitter.com/psukhie/status/723369550041874433)


In addition to bank account numbers, the form asks foreigners about the social media they use and the vehicles they drive as well as places they frequent – “such as club, restaurant, shop, hospital and other places.”

The government justified the controversial move on grounds of national security, citing concerns about terrorism. The new, seemingly intrusive request is likely to face stiff resistance from Thailand’s large expatriate community, which had previously faced leaks of their personal information.

#Thailand (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thailand?src=hash) now requires disclosure of additional personal information for #visa (https://twitter.com/hashtag/visa?src=hash) extensions, 90-day reports or re-entry #permits (https://twitter.com/hashtag/permits?src=hash). #immigration (https://twitter.com/hashtag/immigration?src=hash)
— Scherezade Maestre (@schmaestre) April 21, 2016 (https://twitter.com/schmaestre/status/723089156809875456)


The Immigration Bureau defended the move, saying it met visa and reporting requirements.

The bureau’s deputy chief, Pol Maj Gen Chatchawan Wachirapaneekhun, said the information was useful for security measures as it ensured the safety of the tourists and expats. He said the details would be handled confidentially.

The Bangkok Post also reported him saying that it was not compulsory to answer the invasive questions on the form.

The publication quoted a source who said that the move, which was initiated by Pol Maj Gen Chatchawan and approved by the bureau’s chief Pol Lt Gen Nathathorn Prousoontorn, was merely in its trial period.

The source said many foreigners had complained about the their safety and privacy.

asiancorrespondent.com

Mid
06-23-2016, 04:05 PM
Thailand rolls out ‘intrusive’ immigration form nationwide to help ‘catch foreigners faster’ (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/06/thailand-intrusive-immigration-form/)
23rd June 2016

https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Thailand-Foreign-National-Information-Form-940x529.jpg
Thailand's controversial Foreign National Information Form.
Pic: Hanis Maketab / Asian Correspondent

THAILAND’S Immigration Bureau now requires foreigners nationwide to provide extensive personal information. In the widely criticized ‘Foreign National Information Form’, foreigners are asked to provide bank account details, social media accounts, frequently visited places, and other details.

The form, which up until now was only used in certain areas, “is being rolled out nationwide”, reported ThaiVisa News (http://news.thaivisa.com/thailand/controversial-foreign-national-information-form-arrives-in-pattaya-being-rolled-out-nationwide/146311/) on Wednesday.

The requirement applies to longer-stay visitors, including those filling out their 90-day report, visa extensions, or re-entry permits. Tourists will not be required to fill out the form at point of entry.

Last month, the Immigration Bureau’s crime suppression unit Deputy Commissioner Maj Gen Chachaval Vachirapaneegul told The Phuket News (http://www.thephuketnews.com/new-personal-details-form-arrives-at-phuket-immigration-57510.php#e57yjFqhuFsiaVsT.97) that it was “mandatory” for foreigners to fill out the form.

“If a foreigner doesn’t want to fill in their information by themselves, they will be questioned for our records anyway. If they don’t fill in the form, we will suspect their reason,” he said.

However, not all details are required, apparently, as Chachaval added that people would not be forced to include their social media accounts.

The Immigration Bureau’s reasoning behind the necessity of the form, despite an outcry from foreigners in Thailand, is due to the fact that “in the past, immigration lacked information about foreign nationals living in Thailand when problems happened. This updated information will help us catch foreigners faster,” said Chachaval.

The form was first introduced back in April at the Immigration Division 1 office and the One-Stop Service Center at Chamchuri Square in Bangkok, followed by Phuket, and is now reportedly used in Samut Prakan and Jomtien.

Among the information the form asks “aliens” to submit are:



Full name, date of birth, and passport number
Full names of father and mother
Full address and telephone numbers in home country
Full address and telephone numbers of residence and workplace in Thailand
Social media accounts and email address (optional)
Make of car/motorcycle, as well as its model, color, and license plate number
Frequently visited places such as clubs, restaurants, shops, hospital
Emergency contact details (one of Thai nationality and one of foreign nationality)
Bank account details such as bank, branch, account name and account number (only required for certain visas)


Understandably, many foreigners are reluctant to share their private information with Thai authorities, as they have their doubts regarding how securely their details will be kept – it was only in March when a couple of online data leaks (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/03/apparent-data-leak-leaves-foreigners-in-southern-thailand-anxious/) revealed foreigners’ sensitive information (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/03/thailand-sensitive-info-about-tourists-revealed-in-2nd-online-data-leak/).

But for those of you thinking of just winging it and putting in false information to stick it to the man, the form readily informs that those “providing false information to an officer shall be punished under [the] Penal Code”.

asiancorrespondent.com

Boon Mee
06-24-2016, 09:07 AM
This is an utterly no-big-deal thing as Immigration already has our address, our bank details (Retirement Extension) phone number etc.
The only thing they don't yet possess is the vehicle's license plate and who cares if they have that?
The rest is optional as this poster understands it.

Mid
06-24-2016, 09:56 AM
^

Interesting attitude for a Republican :rolleyes:

Texpat
06-24-2016, 02:49 PM
^^True. Where I live the embassy proof of pension hasn't been accepted for three years. It's proof of money in the bank or no retirement visa.

"The government" has your vehicle details too. When you register it every year and pay the road tax, they confirm it is still yours. It wouldn't be hard for immigration to get the information if they wanted. Of course, it's easier to make you do it -- and there's another contact, an opportunity to squeeze some more baht out of your ass. :yup:

Bonglek
06-25-2016, 09:42 PM
Does chaterbate count as social media ? Should be ok since hard to imagine any site more sociable.

bababonkers
07-08-2016, 01:03 AM
Are all immigration offices asking farangs doing their 90 day report to fill in this new personal details form that I keep hearing about?

bababonkers
07-09-2016, 04:11 AM
Anyone?

Texpat
07-10-2016, 12:38 AM
No. I did a report last week. Took all of 3 minutes. I think the new wench in charge gets hot and bothered when she sees my striking form sauntering through the door.

peterplonker
07-19-2016, 12:05 PM
^^True. Where I live the embassy proof of pension hasn't been accepted for three years. It's proof of money in the bank or no retirement visa.

"The government" has your vehicle details too. When you register it every year and pay the road tax, they confirm it is still yours. It wouldn't be hard for immigration to get the information if they wanted. Of course, it's easier to make you do it -- and there's another contact, an opportunity to squeeze some more baht out of your ass. :yup:
one up on you there Tex, I gave them financial proof income by embassy letter, (NZ embassy just in case you hadn't heard of the place, considering it hasn't yet been invaded by the US, worse still it was Brits:cry:) but when they saw the limo driven Tuk tuk that i arrived in and my old gaunt frame, they had no hesitation in granting my retirement visa.

sabang
07-19-2016, 05:54 PM
While this cvntrie's self immolation continues, the only emotion I can raise is a sneer.

Boon Mee
07-25-2016, 09:01 AM
While this cvntrie's self immolation continues, the only emotion I can raise is a sneer.

Looks like your spellchecker ain't workin' too good there sabang.
A sneer eh? Well, we guess you don't like peace & quiet that's come about since the coup, eh?
Just another Nattering Nabob of Negativism...:popcorn:

Mid
09-28-2016, 03:27 PM
Thai cops making home visits to fill ‘invasive’ immigration forms, foreigners say (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/09/thai-cops-making-home-visits-fill-invasive-immigration-forms-foreigners-say/)
28th September 2016

https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Thailand-Foreign-National-Information-Form-940x529.jpg
Thailand's controversial Foreign National Information Form.
Pic: Hanis Maketab / Asian Correspondent

THREE foreigners living in Thailand have complained of receiving visits by policemen asking them to furnish personal details, purportedly as part of a controversial immigration policy mooted by the authorities for national security reasons.

According to Thaivisa.com (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/945350-thai-police-visiting-foreigners-at-home-asking-for-yet-more-personal-info-via-new-controversial-form/), the three foreigners residing in the northern province of Chiang Mai were visited at home by the uniformed officials who asked them to provide details like their monthly income, height, weight, and even skin color.

The three, said Thaivisa, wrote about the visits and posted their accounts in the website forum. They claimed that they were asked to provide the details in the ‘Personal Information’ form from the ‘Transnational Crime Coordination Unit Region 5 (TCCU R5).

https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/police-form.jpg
Image via @ThaiVisa.com

Other details requested in the form included the nationality of parents, current address, name of spouse and date of marriage, along with details on their children.

The ‘Personal Appearance’ section of the form, on the other hand, asked for height, weight, skin colour, hair colour and details of any scars, the website reported.

A user identified as jak2002003 said the visiting officer had provided a form with incorrect details.

https://cdn.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/police-form-2.jpg
@ThaiVisa.com

“Problem was the name on mine was not me…. and the address house number was wrong,” the user was quoted as saying.

“So I told them I did not want to fill it in. The head man came to take it back the next day.. and told me he has been told that the government has told all the head men to get this information form any Farangs living in their village.”

The user said the form asked for details that were “too personal”, adding the Immigration office had already asked details about frequent hangouts and that the information was already provided during the user’s last entry into the kingdom.

“What’s going on? Next will be having to report to the village headman and immigration every 90 days?” the user asked.

“And why do we have to fill the information 90 day forms out AND this new one AND this home delivered police one… ALL with the SAME information on them… EVERY TIME we go to do 90 day or visa renewal (SIC)?. Seems crazy.”

It was not immediately clear whether the police officers were acting upon instruction or whether the move would be imposed on all other foreigners living in the province and country.

In April, Thailand’s Immigration Bureau began formally asking foreigners who live in the country to provide their bank account numbers as well as information about their social media use and places they often visit.

The government justified the controversial move on grounds of national security, citing concerns about terrorism. The new, seemingly intrusive request is likely to face stiff resistance from Thailand’s large expatriate community, which had previously faced leaks of their personal information.

Many foreigners are also said to be reluctant to share their private information with Thai authorities due to reservations over how securely their details would be kept. It was only in March when a couple of online data leaks (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/03/apparent-data-leak-leaves-foreigners-in-southern-thailand-anxious/) revealed foreigners’ sensitive information (https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/03/thailand-sensitive-info-about-tourists-revealed-in-2nd-online-data-leak/).

asiancorrespondent.com

Boon Mee
09-29-2016, 05:59 AM
Immigration Police have been hassling CM Farangs for some time now.
Let's hope it doesn't spread to the rest of the country...:mid:

Boon Mee
10-05-2016, 02:40 PM
Immigration Police have been hassling CM Farangs for some time now.
Let's hope it doesn't spread to the rest of the country...:mid:

Well, it apparently hasn't spread to my Immigration office.
Did my 90 day reporting yesterday - in/out <5 minutes with no additional paperwork involved.