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Mid
11-23-2016, 03:03 AM
Thailand to have 10-year visa for senior tourists (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-11/23/c_135850579.htm)
Editor: yan


BANGKOK, Nov. 22 (Xinhua) -- Thai cabinet on Tuesday agreed that the country's long-stay visa for tourists aged over 50 can be extended to a maximum of 10 years from the current one year, though the visa holder still have to report to immigration police every 90 days.

Apisit Chaiyanuwat, vice minister at the Prime Minister's Office, said after the meeting of the cabinet that the 10-year long-stay visa, set for tourists aged over 50, has other requirements.

A foreigner seeking the visa must have a minimum monthly income of 100,000 baht (about 2,777 U.S. dollars) or a minimum deposit of three million baht (about 83,333 U.S. dollars) in a bank account and it has to be maintained for at least a year.

Besides, they have to have a health insurance lasting a minimum of one year and worth a minimum of 1,000 U.S. dollars.

According to Apisit, the visa will be valid initially for five years and could be renewed for another five and the visa fee was set at 10,000 baht.

Though got a 10-year long-stay visa, one still have to report to immigration police every 90 days as before.

The prolonged visa aimed to promote medical and wellness tourism while the target groups are visitors from many countries, such as China, Japan, India, United States and the United Kingdom.

news.xinhuanet.com

Norton
11-23-2016, 06:49 AM
Interesting alternative to retirement visa.


have to have a health insurance lasting a minimum of one year and worth a minimum of 1,000 U.S. dollars

??

Boon Mee
11-23-2016, 09:18 AM
$10,000 USD worth of insurance?
3 million in the bank?

As they say in China: "Rots a Ruck"! :mid:

peterplonker
11-23-2016, 10:43 AM
Well i have the retirement visa, its the same as the 10yr visa without the health insurance,(if some one can point me to the insurer who will issue insurance to someone with Parkinson) i will buy one.:coffee: ****n morons.

Boon Mee
11-23-2016, 04:37 PM
Well i have the retirement visa, its the same as the 10yr visa without the health insurance,(if some one can point me to the insurer who will issue insurance to someone with Parkinson) i will buy one.:coffee: ****n morons.

No, you have the Retirement Extension. :mid:

...taking a page outa Mid's book heh

Norton
11-23-2016, 06:36 PM
3 million in the bank?

Or 100k per month income.

In any case the whole thing is obviously poorly defined. Devil is in the detail.

Mid
11-23-2016, 06:47 PM
Devil is in the detail.

http://www.thaigov.go.th/index.php/th/2012-07-18-11-42-15/item/109096-id-109096

Mid
11-24-2016, 04:22 PM
Thailand’s New 10-Year Visas Meet Mixed Reactions (http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/business/2016/11/24/details-10-year-visas-meet-mixed-reactions/)
Asaree Thaitrakulpanich
November 24, 2016

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BANGKOK — Expats have expressed enthusiasm about the approval of a plan to issue 10-year visas but worry they may be of benefit to few as more details about how they would work have came to light Thursday.

Since the cabinet approved Tuesday a plan to offer 10-year visas to foreign nationals over 50, a number of have expats welcomed the news but said they were concerned about their accessibility, health insurance requirements and unaddressed shortcomings of other visa offerings.

“Right now, this visa seems like a very good thing, even though we need to wait to find out all the details and rules about it,” said 68-year-old Geoffrey Carter, who’s lived in the kingdom 24 years.

As announced Tuesday, foreign nationals 50 and up would be eligible for 10-year visas, provided they earned at least 100,000 baht per month or had 3 million baht in the bank. They must also hold a certain level of health insurance.

Carter, who once led a Rotary Club chapter in the capital, said he personally was in a position to be okay with the financial requirements.

“I don’t have any problem with putting 3 million into a time deposit,” he said.

What concerns him is the requirement that one must have health insurance covering hospital stays and annual coverage worth at least USD$10,000.

“I’m not sure about the compulsory medical insurance, though,” Carter said. “Never encountered a rule like this before.”

Many insurance companies do not cover at the required level, he added.

Less positive is Jim Kelly, a Scotsman who’s lived in the kingdom 54 years. He said the terms are unacceptable.

“I don’t know anyone who would be willing to put 3 million baht in a Thai account and leave it there,” the 77-year-old resident of Hua Hin wrote in reply. “I have no intention in buying health insurance, which I consider to be a swindle.”

Should the new visa replace the existing retirement visa program, he predicts a “mass exodus of foreigners from Thailand.”

Deal Too Sweet To Be True?

According to minutes of Tuesday’s cabinet meeting, the long stay, multiple-entry visa will be offered to citizens of 14 nations: Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, France, Finland, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Australia, the United States, the United Kingdom, Japan and Canada. The application fee will be 10,000 baht.

The financial requirements alone are likely to exclude all but the most affluent.

Applicants must not only leave 3 million baht untouched for one year in a time deposit, but they cannot withdraw more than 50 percent, which they must show proof was spent in Thailand for such as medical, property, tuition or similar expenses, according to the resolution. Want to renew it five years later? Visa holders must again show 3 million baht in the bank or an income of at least 100,000 baht per month.

Roy Howard owns a development company and has lived in Thailand for 56 years. The 81-year-old Australian sees the new visa as an opportunity to make his life easier.

“This 5+5 deal is actually a five-year visa that is extendable by another five years,” he said. “In my experience, the government’s attitude is one that is happy to have people permanently living here, as long as they have the resources.”

But he also balked at the health insurance requirements.

“One thing that is new, however, is the requirement for health insurance,” Howard said.

The visa would allow spouses 50 and up of those approved to apply for Non-immigrant “O” visas. Children under 21 will be able to apply for education visas, according to the cabinet.

After approving the plan, the cabinet sent it for implementation to the Ministry of Interior Affairs.

Unfortunately that’s where the trail goes cold, for now.

Permanent Secretary of the Interior Kritsada Boonrat said Thursday he had no idea when it would come into effect.

An official in the visa and travel division of the Foreign Affairs Ministry said she did not know anything either.

“The announcement didn’t include the date of when this will be implemented, so we will have to wait for them,” she said.

There seemed no clear answers as to whether the visa would be a new offering or replace existing retirement visas.

Under the current system, obtaining a retirement visa provides no ongoing guarantee of right to stay. Like others living in Thailand on such visas, Howard, the Australian here 56 years, must continually renew his every year and check-in with the Immigration Bureau every 90 days.

“It’s something you’d rather not do, but you have to get on with it,” he said.

He said the plan would likely reduce his visa fees overall. Instead of paying 10,000 baht annually to extend it, he would get five years for the fee.

‘All About Attracting Rich People’

Karl Vandelhole is a 55-year-old Belgian correspondent for Der Spiegel who lives in the southern province of Krabi on a journalism visa.

He said the newly announced visa seeks to attract the wealthy while ignoring regular expats and their rights to live with their families.

“There are always new proposals about visas, but they never take into account people who are married or want to work,” he said. “It’s all about attracting rich people.”

“I have to spend 12,000 to 15,000 baht a year just to live with my family. I have to go through hundreds of paperwork a year, get letters from the German embassy, and travel to Bangkok for my work visa. All this just to live with my family, which is actually a basic human right under article 16 of the Universal Human Rights Declaration.”

Vandenhole believes there should be more supportive visas for people married to Thais or on work visas.

“I’m not saying that this new visa is bad, but that there should be more visas to support not just people with money but everyone else as well,” he said. “Make it easier for us.”

khaosodenglish.com

Boon Mee
11-26-2016, 06:00 PM
“I have to spend 12,000 to 15,000 baht a year just to live with my family. I have to go through hundreds of paperwork a year, get letters from the German embassy, and travel to Bangkok for my work visa. All this just to live with my family, which is actually a basic human right under article 16 of the Universal Human Rights Declaration.”

"The Universal Rights Declaration" ? :rotfl:

These people are morons. What about that Thai migrant who wants to live in bum fcuk Belgium?
Piss off you EuroTrash...:yup:

peterplonker
12-15-2016, 12:29 PM
this time i had my embassy letter, same no as last year but they threw my sorry ass out, how the **** does it qualify one year but not the following?, i live well enough by supporting my wife and two children:rolleyes:, but then i cannot stay here without the rigmarole of visa runs or going to savanakhet for a yearly visa.

i will have to think about this, go back to NZ or subject my self to their silly hoops.