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    Thais hit Cambodia casinos to sidestep junta's betting blitz
    22 Jun 2014 12:09

    Desperate for a flutter during a junta crackdown on gambling at home, Thais are making a beeline for casinos in a seedy Cambodian border town -- which has already been deluged by migrants also fleeing the kingdom.

    Golden Crown Casino in the Thai-Cambodian border city of Poipet.
    (AFP/Tang Chhin Sothy)

    POIPET, Cambodia: Desperate for a flutter during a junta crackdown on gambling at home, Thais are making a beeline for casinos in a seedy Cambodian border town -- which has already been deluged by migrants also fleeing the kingdom.

    For over a decade Poipet, a scruffy, vice-ridden frontier town studded with casinos and online gambling booths, has lured customers from neighbouring Thailand, where betting is all but banned.

    Casino staff in Poipet told AFP the chips have been changing hands at an unusually fast rate since the Thai army seized power across the border on May 22.

    A junta blitz on organised crime has seen raids on underground casinos, dozens of arrests and access to a number of online gambling sites blocked.

    In its get-tough message to illegal gamblers -- and any local officials caught in cahoots with casino operators -- the army rulers cited the need "to safeguard the public and uphold social order".

    The warning brought a boon to Poipet's card tables, slot machines and 24-hour online gaming booths -- key for live betting on World Cup football matches being played in Brazil.

    "We cannot play these games in Thailand now," 32-year-old Nan told AFP as she laid a 100 Thai baht ($3) stake at a baccarat table at the Crown Resort Casino.

    "Police will arrest us... the military has shut down illegal gambling," she added, refusing to give her real name.

    Thais can only gamble on their state lottery or at a handful of horse racing meetings, prompting punters to splurge millions of dollars each year overseas.

    Much of it funnels into Poipet, a four-hour drive from Bangkok, and the fastest-growing of Cambodia's casino towns.

    There are few available figures on the sums spent by Thais in Poipet in an opaque industry clouded further by the restrictions on both Thais and Cambodians gambling on home soil.

    But Cambodian government figures from 2011 showed gambling brought an annual tax bonanza of $20 million to the impoverished nation -- as well as thousands of spin-off jobs and strong profits for casino owners.

    Cambodian croupier, Bopha -- also not her real name -- said the latest Thai influx came in parallel with a sudden deluge of more than 220,000 Cambodian migrant workers into the town.

    They began to flee Thailand through Poipet around 10 days ago amid rumours of a violent crackdown on illegal workers, which the army strongly denies.

    "Last week when a lot of Cambodians returned so many Thai people came to gamble too... it is because they cannot gamble now in Thailand," she added.

    In a nation dependent on cheap foreign labour, the migrant exodus has sheared many factories and construction sites of their workforce.

    It has raised fresh economic worries in Thailand, which has limped towards recession after months of debilitating political protests which presaged the army coup.

    But the sight of trucks crammed with weary Cambodian migrants has failed to deter Thai gamblers.

    "They are flocking to Poipet," according to Sungsidh Piriyarangsan, an expert on gambling at Thailand's Rangsit University.

    "There are nine casinos in Poipet and gamblers like to try their luck at different ones... It's hard to stop them from crossing the border although (Thai) authorities know why they go there."

    While there are no recent studies of what remains a controversial topic in the kingdom, Sungsidh estimates Thailand's illegal gambling sector to be worth anywhere between $9-12 billion annually.

    The money that flows into Cambodia and its casino operators is dwarfed by revenue in Asia's gambling mecca Macau, which hit a record $45 billion in 2013.

    But Poipet is growing amid a wider gaming boom in Asia over the past decade.

    Last year, US-listed Entertainment Gaming Asia opened the doors to a new $7.5 million slot machine hall in the border town.

    And in a town already geared towards its Thai guests -- World Cup odds are written in Thai and croupiers speak the language -- the casinos are flinging their doors open to exiled gamblers from across the border.

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    Meanwhile

    Military raid foils opening of large casino in capital
    June 21, 2014

    The military and police raid at a huge Baccarat gambling den in Meng Chai area Thursday has foiled its opening and forced the immediate transfer of a local senior police officer for negligence of duty.

    However, the raid could not have been successful if it was not tipped off by the former massage parlour king who turned a party leader and former Bangkok MP Chuvit Kamolvisit.


    Chuvit tipped off the presence of the casino a day before it reopened on his Facebook page as he vowed support for the policy of the military junta chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha to crack down on gambling drastically as the general saw gambling is original source of crimes.

    He had been trying to expose the existence of this casino for some time but was never successful until when he tipped the casino was planning to open Thursday.

    Proprietor of the casino was arrested Friday and now under custody by military personnel.

    The proprietor is a businessman who owns and operates a golf driving complex named the Number One with a ports club locating within on the Soi Sahakan Pramoon.

    Police said on casual inspection, the sports club looks as if it has been abandoned. Its boundaries are covered by fencing.

    But when military and police personnel numbering more than 100 men raided the premises, they were amazed o discover that there was a large gambling den located within an area of approximately 1 rai. It was designed expensively as a flamboyant establishment rivaling foreign establishments.

    The interior was decorated with luxurious furniture and fixings and complete with 50 gambling equipment such as 30 Baccarat tables, 10,000 packs of playing cards and gambling chips amounting to more than 3 million baht. All the assets have been seized but no gamblers were on the premises at the time.

    Authorities found the casino to be brand new with new fixings and equipment.

    Many rooms had been prepared to cater gamblers equipped with more than 10 closed circuit TV cameras. There are surveillance cameras that monitored movements both within and on the exterior of the establishment.

    Pol Gen Aek Angsananont, the deputy commissioner of the Royal Thai Police, said the owner of the casino is a businessman, but after his business folded, he made his foray into casinos.

    Authorities had found that the layout of the casino was well planned out with only a single point for entry and exit and the exterior completely concealed with zinc roofing plates.

    Closed-circuit TV cameras had been strategically placed from the mount of the Soi up to the car park.

    More cameras had also been placed on thick foliaged trees to avoid detection and to give a clear vantage of the surrounding area.

    Authorities are checking with the Excise and Customs department to ascertain if the gambling equipment had been brought into the country legally or otherwise.

    Furthermore, the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration Wang is also pressing charges for illegal extension and modification to existing structures.

    The sport club has not been in operation for more than five years and police have had many reports in the past, of the establishment being used as an ad hoc gambling den on many occasions.

    On these occasions, the casino would open on some days and be closed on others to avoid attracting attention from authorities.

    Its customers are believed to be well-to-do, wealthy individuals and the service personnel were mostly Cambodians who have all been arrested in Thursday raid.

    It has been discovered that these foreign staff had extensive experience working in casinos and gambling dens in their home countries and had deliberately applied to work here at this particular establishment.

    Police said they also have information on other gambling dens in the capital and are preparing to make seizures.

    This will include the notorious mobile gambling facilities that employ a number of large passenger coaches that regularly operate on the Ratchada and suburban roads surrounding Bangkok.

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    • #3
      Thailand Mulls a Fling at the Gaming Tables

      Thailand Mulls a Fling at the Gaming Tables
      June 17, 2015


      Coming to a soi near you?

      Junta could seek to revive a faltering economy via allowing casinosKeeping Money at Home
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      • #4
        If even strait-laced Singapore can now accept casinos, why not Thailand?

        This is an Apple , that's an Orange
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        • #5

          Not to mention the statement the police made just a week ago, claiming to make the gambling laws much stronger. They even said they were going to deport Farang who had been caught gambling online in there own homes and blacklist them from re entering the country.

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          • #6
            Police chief to launch pro-casinos website
            18/06/2015

            The Royal Thai Police Office will launch a website in September to support a campaign by retiring national police chief Somyot Poompunmuang for the legalising of casinos in Thailand.

            Police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri has been given responsibility for the website project, to kick off on Sept 1, according to Pol Gen Somyot.

            The website will detail the advantages and disadvantages of setting up casinos in the country, including information on how the tax revenue pocketed from gamblers would benefit the country. The money should be used to develop the country, including helping the needy and improving education, he added.

            Pol Gen Somyot said he was ready to explain his position on legalising casinos to Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.

            Building licensed casinos would not wipe out illegal gambling dens, but it would enabe Thailand to keep the molney Thais spend going abroad to gamble.

            The police chief on Wednesday came out in support of the proposal by some National Reform Council (NRC) members, calling themselves the Rak Chart group, for legal casinos. But he denied his connection with the group.

            "I have never talked to the NRC members who proposed this idea. It is my own opinion,'' he said.

            "Thailand will have casinos in 10 or 20 years and I will be gone by that time. At least people should think of Somyot as someone who fought for this issue,'' said Pol Gen Somyot, who is due to retire at the end of September.

            NRC chairman Thienchay Kiranandana said on Tuesday that casino legislation was not on the reform agenda, but the group led by Maj Anan Watcharothai vowed to continue the campaign.

            About 30 students of the New Generation against Gambling Network opposed the idea in an open letter to the NRC chairman submitted through his representative.

            Legalising casinos was not part of national reform and it could led to more crime in the country, said Nattapong Sampaokaew, a leader of the network.

            "What the group from the NRC is trying to do will damage the country,'' he said, and urged other NRC members to come out against the move.

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            • #7
              Prayut slams lid on casino-legalisation talk
              24/06/2015

              Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Wednesday slammed the lid on the idea of legalising casinos in Thailand and ordered the national police chief to stop talking about it.

              For the first time, Gen Prayut made his position clear on the issues, saying he believed casinos were not supported by the public and thus will not become legal during his time in office.

              The prime minister said he ordered Pol Gen Somyot Pumpunmuang on Wednesday to stop discussing the matter.

              Watching since June 17 when the police chief embarked on a crusade to open casinos in Thailand, the prime minister said he had enough of the talk by Pol Gen Somyot.

              The police chief had argued that he supported casinos as a way to protect officers who had lost their positions after illegal gambling dens were found in their jurisdictions, according to Gen Prayut. He acknowledged many clean officers were transferred to inactive posts during investigation even though they reaped no benefit from the underground casinos.

              Pol Gen Somyot wanted to explain his position in person to the prime minister, but they never met.

              "Don't need to tell me. I have brains,'' said Gen Prayut on Tuesday, pointing to his head.

              An attempt to push through casino legislation was engineered by the so-called Rak Chat group of 12 National Reform Council members, who cited revenue benefits from gamblers.

              Finance Minister Sompai Phasee supported the idea, but other cabinet members, including Deputy Prime Minister MR Pridiyathorn Devakula, Defence Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwon, and Tourism and Sports Minister Kobkarn Wattanavrangkul, opposed it.

              NRC chairman Thienchay Kiranandana said the casino issue was not part of any reform plan.

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              • #8
                The crooked Thai cops are licking their chops at the prospect of casinos.
                Imagine the payday for them.

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                • #9
                  they are well ahead of you on that game Tex, I went to the village last songrkran and as traditional for village life a few old hags get out the cards to start a game, next minute a unmarked pickup pulls out side the gate and this "fake" cop pulls up and starts demanding money, and they complied.
                  I got out the camera to take a photo but was warned not to do so, because he has high up cop friends, these poor bastrds are intimidated by their own shadow,

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                  • #10
                    Thailand plans casino survey
                    Mark Griffith
                    July 6, 2015

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                    • #11
                      Thailand considers casinos again
                      March 29, 2016

                      Thailand, whose conservative Buddhist society has long been opposed to gambling, has again renewed the debate over legalising casinos as the government eyes a potential boost to tax revenue and tourism numbers.



                      The discussion comes amid signs the public view may be changing, with surveys pointing to growing support for legal casinos, which could generate more than $2.7bn in annual tax revenue and boost foreign tourist arrivals by up to 50 per cent, according to recent studies backed by the Thai Excise Department.

                      Source: Asia Gaming Brief

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                      • #12
                        Analysts: Thailand Taking Bet on Legalizing Casinos
                        Ron Corben
                        June 28, 2017


                        People maneuvre a small boat along the Mekong river in front of the Kings Roman casino opposite Sop Ruak in the Golden Triangle region where the borders of Thailand, Laos and Myanmar meet, Jan. 15, 2012.

                        BANGKOK A roulette is displayed at the Global Gaming Expo Asia in Macau, June 8, 2011.

                        Oversight, transparencyFILE - Attendants conduct play with the visitors over a Black Jack gaming table during the Global Gaming Expo Asia in Macau.

                        Big draw
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                        • #13
                          Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra led an initial plan to legalize a casino in Pattaya before he was ousted by the military in a 2006 coup.
                          What a great idea that was, and remains. Thus it probably won't happen. But hey, that's OK- blame Thaksin.

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                          • #14
                            Let's hope if they do build a casino here in LOS is won't be as nasty as that one pictured on the previous page.

                            Made a YUGE mistake a few weeks ago and motored on up with some friends to Chaieng Saen and took the casino boat across the river to that Kings Romans Casino.

                            Man! this poster has been to some scrotty, nasty border casinos but that one takes the cake! It's packed with chain-smoking mainland chinese and the staff is chink too. Nobody speaks either Thai or Lao. The food was horrendous! The tables were some weird kinda simple high/low game. No roulette and the slots were something Vegas through out 50 years ago and all in the Chinese language so you hadn't a clue wtf was happening.

                            Horrible place...
                            God, the panic within the Dems, MSM, and left must be horrifying...realizing that Joe is really the best they've got.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stormfront
                              Haven't been there.
                              But know of it.
                              And things that I've heard about the place is not encouraging.
                              Definitely don't bother go visit that place unless you want to endure endless clouds of second-hand smoke, surly 'help' who can't be bothered to speak anything but Chinese.

                              Worst casino I've ever been to and that includes some of the real grotty ones across from Anarapathet. Poepet, Cambodia.
                              God, the panic within the Dems, MSM, and left must be horrifying...realizing that Joe is really the best they've got.

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