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Originally posted by Arthur Daley View PostIt's about white supremism.
Centuries ago, Europeans who thought it was fine to sell Africans or colonise New Zealand.
These days, their lazy descendents who feel entitled to fat salaries for lording it over Asian peasants in a factory.
The idea that such a situation occurs in the world today shows white privilege is alive and well in Thailand & people in these positions need to be called out for what they are - racists
What may have been acceptable 1 or 2 decades ago when there was a lack of suitably qualified Thai graduates is no longer the case and I'm sure we all agree it is no longer acceptable for a white person to be doing a job that can be done perfectly well by a Thai
Such people should be named and shamed, removed from their position & thrown out of Thailand. White privilege & its inherent racism is no longer acceptable
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Originally posted by Mr Tinkles View Post
The idea that such a situation occurs in the world today shows white privilege is alive and well in Thailand & people in these positions need to be called out for what they are - racists
What may have been acceptable 1 or 2 decades ago when there was a lack of suitably qualified Thai graduates is no longer the case and I'm sure we all agree it is no longer acceptable for a white person to be doing a job that can be done perfectly well by a Thai
Such people should be named and shamed, removed from their position & thrown out of Thailand. White privilege & its inherent racism is no longer acceptable
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Originally posted by Mr Tinkles View PostWhat may have been acceptable 1 or 2 decades ago
But all, like the present day example, are parasites.
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Originally posted by Arthur Daley View PostOh look, a blatant ad hominem side-step of the issue raised
I don't think anymore needs to be said regarding Ergenburgens racial prejudices and his projection of this awful trait onto other people
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Originally posted by Mr Tinkles View Post
An unsurprising response Arthur from a most guilty party. When the weak minded or unintelligent cannot enter into proper debate profanities are their first refuge
I don't think anymore needs to be said regarding Ergenburgens racial prejudices and his projection of this awful trait onto other people
Now get back to the orchard boy, that fruit's not gonna pick itself!
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As someone who has been living in NZ I find your racial views divisive, outdated, & unwanted in this country. I think it's best you stay in the country you currently reside for the rest of your life as I believe you would find it difficult to fit back into a multi-cultural society without exacerbating your obvious mental issues centered around racial prejudices
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Originally posted by Mr Tinkles View PostAs someone who has been living in NZ I find your racial views divisive, outdated, & unwanted in this country. I think it's best you stay in the country you currently reside for the rest of your life as I believe you would find it difficult to fit back into a multi-cultural society without exacerbating your obvious mental issues centered around racial prejudices
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A third ad hominem response from a person that refuses to discuss or debate. I really have to question your ability to function in a social situation if these are your sort of responses. A condition on the Autism spectrum is commonly associated with your responses today which seem impulsive & lacking social cues
Anyway, we’ll let other board members make up their mind about ErgenBergen, personally I believe I am trying to debate with a racist imbecile
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Originally posted by Mr Tinkles View PostA third ad hominem response from a person that refuses to discuss or debate. I really have to question your ability to function in a social situation if these are your sort of responses. A condition on the Autism spectrum is commonly associated with your responses today which seem impulsive & lacking social cues
Anyway, we’ll let other board members make up their mind about ErgenBergen, personally I believe I am trying to debate with a racist imbecile
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FFS, the BLM social justice warriors are out of control.
Suspension of a US professor sparks debate over a Chinese word
The suspension of a US university professor has ignited a debate over the use of a seemingly innocuous Chinese word.
Professor Greg Patton at the University of Southern California (USC) was telling students in a communications lecture last month about filler, or pause words, such as 'err', 'umm' or 'you know' in English.
Footage of his lecture, which has now gone viral, shows Prof Patton saying: "In China, the common pause word is 'that, that, that'. So in China, it might be na-ge, na-ge, na-ge."
Annunciated, na-ge sounds like the N-word, which led several of the professor's students to complain to the university. Responding to the complaint, the dean of the university, Geoffrey Garrett, told students that Prof Patton would no longer be teaching the course.
"It is simply unacceptable for the faculty to use words in class that can marginalize, hurt and harm the psychological safety of our students," he said.
News of the spat reached China, where many posted on social media saying they thought Prof Patton's punishment, conversely, was discrimination against speakers of the Chinese language.
Lost in translation
In Chinese the word "na-ge" (那个) is a common filler phrase that people use when they're hesitating or trying to find the right word. It literally translates to the word "that".
But there have been many documented incidents of the word being used innocuously and leading to misunderstandings, and even violence.
In July 2016, a fight broke out on the subway in the city of Southern Guangzhou, after a black man heard a Chinese man saying na-ge and mistook it for the N-word.
Footage went viral online showing the black man slapping the Chinese commuter and shouting "you dare try that again" and "never say that again"
More recently, in April this year, Taiwanese news website UDN reported that two men nearly came to blows on the island outside a restaurant over the same misunderstanding.
Even Chinese basketball star Yao Ming has spoken of how the word brought him "some trouble" while playing in the US for the National Basketball Association (NBA).
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionYao Ming said he had trouble with the word while playing for the Houston Rockets'A universal mistake'
CC Chen, a student at the USC, defended Prof Patton, arguing that it was "clearly an academic lecture on communication" and the professor was "describing a universal mistake commonly made in communication".
"For him to be censored simply because a Chinese word sounds like an English pejorative term is a mistake and is not appropriate, especially given the educational setting," she said. "It also dismisses the fact that Chinese is a real language and has its own pronunciations that have no relation to English."- 'How George Floyd's death changed my Chinese students'
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More than 11,000 people have now signed a Change.org petition calling for Prof Patton to be re-instated. And in China there are discussions taking place over whether the university acted too abruptly.
On the popular Sina Weibo microblog, more than 1,000 posts have used the hashtag #USProfessorSuspendedForUsingNaGe, with many viewing the move as a suppression of Chinese speech.
One post called the incident a "contemporary version of the literary inquisition" - referring to the persecution of intellectuals during China's imperial era.
What began as an accusation against the professor of using discriminatory language has morphed, in China, into accusations of discrimination against the Chinese language.
"Is it now forbidden to speak Chinese in the United States?" asked one Sina Weibo user.
'It's about politics'
In recent months, many in China have expressed solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement in the US. China itself has been on the receiving end of racist sentiment from America, stoked by the highest official in the nation, President Donald Trump, who has called coronavirus the "China virus", "Wuhan virus", and even "Kung Flu".
His language has been regularly cited by Chinese media as an example of xenophobic attitudes towards the Chinese people.
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGESImage captionChinese have shown solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement
Some Chinese posters on Sina Weibo argued that USC, in suspending Prof Patton, had chosen "political correctness" over genuine change. Others raised a note of optimism that the story would raise awareness of differences rather than marginalise them.
Many were of the view that shared discrimination in recent months meant that Asian and black communities should work to understand each other rather than fight against one another.
"There should be respect for differences," wrote one Weibo user.
Back in the US, USC staff and students reacted to the decision to suspend Prof Patton.
"There's no language superior to the other," Chengyan Wu, Co-President of USC Chinese Student and Scholar Association, told the university's student news organisation.
"Restating the rights of one minority group should not be at the expense of violating the other," he said. "We have the right to use our own language."
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