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  • #16
    ^ Phuket must have been fascinating in the past, long before the days of tourism and the development of the beach resorts. Francis Light who established Penang was previously based in Phuket for a decade, and probably took lots of the Chinese tin miners that were settled in Phuket with him. Back then it would have consisted of the trading town of Phuket with its Sino-Portuguese shophouses, lush villas, and harbour protected from the Andaman waves, tin mines in the hills, and Muslim fisherman in villages dotted around the island's coast.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
      harbour protected from the Andaman waves,
      Which is of course why, like Georgetown in Penang, Phuket Town is on the east side of the island and doesn't have sandy beaches created by strong waves.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
        ^ Phuket must have been fascinating in the past, long before the days of tourism and the development of the beach resorts. Francis Light who established Penang was previously based in Phuket for a decade, and probably took lots of the Chinese tin miners that were settled in Phuket with him. Back then it would have consisted of the trading town of Phuket with its Sino-Portuguese shophouses, lush villas, and harbour protected from the Andaman waves, tin mines in the hills, and Muslim fisherman in villages dotted around the island's coast.
        I'm surprised how under developed parts of Phuket are still. Like around Karon beach.

        I wonder if the municipality is restricting growth to save it from exploding or if it's just close to a natural development rate.

        Pattaya exploded because it's so close to BKK. It's harder to know with Phuket.

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        • #19
          Phuket is about the same size as Singapore but has 1/10 of Singapore's population, at around half a million. It's a lot more mountainous than Singapore which limits land usability, but I think the limited population is due to it being superseded by Penang as the main Staits island stopover due to its more convenient geography, which itself was then superseded by Singapore. While both of those places grew as busy colonies, Phuket only grew recently, primarily as a tourist destination, and I'd guess that pre tourism the population was only 10,000 - 20,000.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by socal View Post


            Pattaya exploded because it's so close to BKK.
            Didn't it begin as a Vietnam War whoring stopover for Americans? It's never looked back since....

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Hugh Cow View Post
              Looks like I should look at the city area next time.
              A few pics of the old town area, which takes up about 10% of the city and attracts a lot of Thai tourists, and has some very cool bars and coffee shops https://says.com/my/lifestyle/phuket...melaka-or-ipoh

              The other 90% of the city is a modern mix of good roads, housing estates, condos, restaurants, other businesses, government offices (many of which are in stunning colonial buildings), schools, two universities, some good mountaintop viewpoints, sports facilities, a marina, a Central Festival and brand new Central Floresta, half a dozen large hotels including a Novotel, several night markets, and dozens of nightlife establishments. All in all, far nicer and more liveable than Pattaya or Patong.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
                Phuket only grew recently, primarily as a tourist destination, and I'd guess that pre tourism the population was only 10,000 - 20,000.
                Having thought about that, it was more likely around 40,000, with 25,000 in Phuket Town (now called Phuket City since tripling in size, but it's only a small city) and another 15,000 dotted around the island in fishing villages.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
                  A few pics of the old town area, which takes up about 10% of the city and attracts a lot of Thai tourists, and has some very cool bars and coffee shops https://says.com/my/lifestyle/phuket...melaka-or-ipoh

                  The other 90% of the city is a modern mix of good roads, housing estates, condos, restaurants, other businesses, government offices (many of which are in stunning colonial buildings), schools, two universities, some good mountaintop viewpoints, sports facilities, a marina, a Central Festival and brand new Central Floresta, half a dozen large hotels including a Novotel, several night markets, and dozens of nightlife establishments. All in all, far nicer and more liveable than Pattaya or Patong.
                  Beautiful.

                  Have you ever heard of James Howard Kunstler ?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
                    Didn't it begin as a Vietnam War whoring stopover for Americans? It's never looked back since....
                    That's how it started but I think the growth has to do with the location

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by socal View Post

                      Beautiful.

                      Have you ever heard of James Howard Kunstler ?
                      Should I have?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by socal View Post
                        That's how it started but I think the growth has to do with the location
                        Yep, the nearest semi-decent beach to a megacity.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
                          Should I have?
                          It's sounds like you know Kunstlerism. James Howard Kunstler is a civic life and architecture critic. It's his work that made me realize why I feel dead inside in N.America and feel alive in Europe and Asia

                           

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                          • #28
                            I think the main 'stigma' attached to living in Pattaya comes from the jealous, sniping underclasses. Thus it has always been.
                            I mean, I would hate to live in a Calcutta slum, I feel sorry for those people actually. But I don't spend my spare time posting about it on the internet.

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                            • #29
                              I'd probably choose Pattaya over Bangkok or Udon or Chiang Mai purely because it's coastal, but as previously said, if living in Thailand why not choose what's singly the best place? And that's Phuket Town, the largest, most historic, most attractive, and Thai (hence normal prices) conurbation of Thailand's largest and most convenient tourist island.

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                              • #30
                                Pulled from the other thread

                                Originally posted by sabang
                                Pattaya remains right in the top rank of the places I would choose to live in Asia
                                But you're light on reasons why. What makes it better than other seaside locations in Asia?

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