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  • Foreigners 'May Soon be Able to do 90-Day Reports at 7-Eleven Stores'

    http://www.chiangmaicitynews.com/news.php?id=4557

  • #2
    Now that would be excellent. It's so archaic, this 90 day reporting stuff.

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    • #3
      Sure would. Will likely happen because it's more work for immigration employees and they get no cash for doing it.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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      • #4
        Thai police relegating most of their duties lately to 7-11 clerks. Sounds about right.

        Rest assured, they will make no changes unless there's something in it for them. Massive penalty for a lost card? Thousands of baht to have the card issued? RFID used to track cardholders? Use it as a foreigner ID card (mandatory to carry at all times $$$?)

        If you believe for a second that anything they will do is for the convenience and benefit of foreigners, and not themselves, I believe you have your cranium in your anus.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Texpat View Post
          Thai police relegating most of their duties lately to 7-11 clerks. Sounds about right.

          Rest assured, they will make no changes unless there's something in it for them. Massive penalty for a lost card? Thousands of baht to have the card issued? RFID used to track cardholders? Use it as a foreigner ID card (mandatory to carry at all times $$$?)

          If you believe for a second that anything they will do is for the convenience and benefit of foreigners, and not themselves, I believe you have your cranium in your anus.
          It would make sense to add the required info to your Thai drivers licence and just swipe it through a card reader in 7/11. If you are here long term, it makes sense to get and carry a Thai Driving licence for insurance and ID anyway.

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          • #6
            I agree with you Charles, that's not a bad idea. But you're thinking like a westerner. As long as foreigner-immigration contacts are viewed as opportunities, it'll never happen, unless there's another scheme to maintain the number of contacts. Every time whitey walks through the door at immigration, it's a potential payday. They're not going to give that up easily.

            They should consider dropping the pretense and just have 7-11 sell the driver's licenses, too.

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            • #7
              If immigration was inclined to streamline 90 reporting of addresses the ideal solution would be to eliminate it. I understand the need to know the where abouts of foreigners. Requiring foreigners to report their address if changed since the last reported would fullfill the objective. Making 90 day reporting more convenient is fine but much better to dump the whole 90 day scheme. I worked with immigration years back. Got to know the head man of the immigration police. Agreed with him re the need but after a bit of discussion about the 90 day requirement he admitted it was put in place to generate revenue via the 2k baht fine if one fails to do the report. Tex is right. Immigration views us, it's customer, a source of revenue. Not unusual when dealing with a government bureaucracy. A visit to the US Embassy for any reason always results in a decrease in my net worth.

              While a welcomed change, changing the 1 year extension to stay requirement to 3 years is much more problematic. Specifically in the 85k per month/800k per year financial requirement. Could be done but pretty sure change will be filed in the too hard box.
              Last edited by Norton; 10-25-2014, 07:42 AM.
              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Charles View Post
                It would make sense to add the required info to your Thai drivers licence and just swipe it through a card reader in 7/11. If you are here long term, it makes sense to get and carry a Thai Driving licence for insurance and ID anyway.
                Not everybody has or wants to have a DR. DRs have nothing to do with immigration anyway, it's a different department.
                “Don’t get sick of me just yet, for I will be here for quite a while”

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                  Not everybody has or wants to have a DR. DRs have nothing to do with immigration anyway, it's a different department.
                  It would make life so much easier for all concerned. They are both government departments and the DL is a commonly accepted form of ID for any foreigner. I have used mine in hotels, police checkpoints and to gain Thai price access to national parks. I cycle most days and carry it in the underseat bum bag. If I get seriously injured, they can identify me immediately.
                  Most of those who choose to live here long term, need a DL even if it is only for a motor cycle. I fail to see your objection unless you go everywhere by taxi or public transport.
                  Even if that were the case, a DL costs only a few hundred baht and is ridiculously easy to obtain. It is a legal requirement for any one who is on a long term visa here if they want to drive.
                  It has the magnetic strip so your info can be verified and updated where necessary. What is your problem with it?

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                  • #10
                    the DL is a commonly accepted form of ID for any foreigner. I have used mine in hotels, police checkpoints and to gain Thai price access to national parks.
                    You've been lucky.
                    Only passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
                    Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in. Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
                    Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.

                    Maybe a one-for-all electronic card is future music, but I don't see it now and the downside, centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.
                    “Don’t get sick of me just yet, for I will be here for quite a while”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                      Only passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
                      Liberal ****tards in the US and Europe consider that an invasion of privacy and a human rights violation. Why do you find it acceptable here? Did you know your passport number is on your Thai driver's license? Oh yeah, you don't have one (for good reason).

                      Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in.
                      Why are hotels charged with policing? I thought that was 7-11's responsibility. Anyway, if you have your wife/girlfriend/ladyboy lover check in, nobody asks squat. What's the point in that fruitless exercise in bureaucratic masturbation?

                      Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
                      Seig Heil! Veah ahh your paperz? You must feel right at home with Thailand's new martial law policy. I'm developing an understanding of how Warsaw Jews felt, circa 1940. Put the info into a DL magnetic strip and a cop can verify it at any 7-11.

                      Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.
                      You are quite observant. Have a gold star.

                      centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.
                      But handing over your passport information to a hotel clerk is OK? You are a walking, talking contradiction.

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                      • #12
                        Most 7-11 employees speak English? Where ins America? Certainly not Thailand.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                          You've been lucky.
                          Only passports are acceptable IDs for obvious reasons.
                          Hotels need your passport and visa numbers to check you in. Police can only determine if you're legally in the country when they see the visa.
                          Visas are stamped into your passport, not your driving license.

                          Maybe a one-for-all electronic card is future music, but I don't see it now and the downside, centralised access to all personal data is not to be taken lightly.
                          I don't believe I have been lucky at all. Anecdotally it seems to be quite a common and sensible practice. As tex pointed out, it has your passport number on it already. I would feel a lot better protected by using my DL as ID and it seems to be fairly simple to add data to it.
                          It would also answer Jao tin's issue with 7-11 staff language skills. If a farang goes to a 7-11 counter and hands over his DL, it can only mean one thing. he needs the card swiped and his 90 day report recorded. No need even to speak, just smile. Even the dumbest 7-11 clerk could be taught to do that.
                          I have never had language issues with 7-11 staff, out here in the sticks or in tourist areas or the capital.
                          Anyway Stroller, you will have to report to immigration with yours but at least it won't be so crowded.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Texpat View Post
                            Liberal ****tards in the US and Europe consider that an invasion of privacy and a human rights violation. Why do you find it acceptable here?
                            In Europe only passports are accepted as IDs? And that's regarded as "a human rights violation"?

                            Ignorant seppo...

                            Why are hotels charged with policing? I thought that was 7-11's responsibility.
                            No, 7-11s do not handle hotel check-ins, soc..., err, tex.

                            Anyway, if you have your wife/girlfriend/ladyboy lover check in, nobody asks squat. What's the point in that fruitless exercise in bureaucratic masturbation?
                            Ask Thai immigration.

                            Seig Heil! Veah ahh your paperz? You must feel right at home with Thailand's new martial law policy. I'm developing an understanding of how Warsaw Jews felt, circa 1940. Put the info into a DL magnetic strip and a cop can verify it at any 7-11.
                            It's been a requirement to carry your passport in Thailand long before martial law. Much better if you must have a DL, eh?

                            Stupid seppo.


                            But handing over your passport information to a hotel clerk is OK? You are a walking, talking contradiction.
                            Darn, you missed the point yet again. Is various personal info available from a magnetic strip on your passport for the hotel clerk?

                            Silly seppo.
                            “Don’t get sick of me just yet, for I will be here for quite a while”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                              It's been a requirement to carry your passport in Thailand long before martial law.
                              Urban myth. Never been a requirement to "carry" your passport. "Produce" it if requested is the requirement.
                              Minor point. No intent to interrupt the gripping seppo/kraut debate.
                              Carry on.
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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