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  • #31
    China South Sea Myth Backfires
    June 20, 2016


    He sailed the nine-dash line

    casus belli
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    • #32
      Are those islands just of California, and is Hawaii 5 miles off the Florida coast?
      Hang on, Hawaii is how far away from the US mainland?

      Good job Hawaii is a state, not an invaded and occupied land the US marines landed on, took control of, removed the government of the time, then filled the place with Americans who voted to make it part of America.

      If that'd been the case, the US would have been able to say sod all about China's claim.
      Last edited by fred; 06-23-2016, 04:10 AM.

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      • #33

        Jeremy Page
        July 12, 2016

        A Chinese Coast Guard vessel passed an oil rig in the South China Sea in 2014.
        Photo: Reuters

        BEIJING has no legal basis, dealing a severe setback to Beijing
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        • #34
          I'll bet the yanks would go ape if the Chinese sent a carrier group to Hawaii, one of the US occupied Pacific islands.

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          • #35
            Funny you should mention that ... the Chinese Navy were in Pearl Harbor in December.
            Here they are sailing alongside US warships. Seeing as the Chinese Navy has only one carrier, Liaoning, based in Zhanjiang, part of the South Sea Fleet, I doubt they would sail it far from that area of responsibility. Instead they sent guided-missile destroyers.



            http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=92402

            And Chinese warships visited the US mainland (Florida) a month earlier.

            http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/02/po...visit-fkiruda/

            The decision handed down today was from a tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague. Give it a rest fred, you're tedious and always wrong.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Texpat View Post
              Funny you should mention that ... the Chinese Navy were in Pearl Harbor in December..
              You daft apeth.
              That was an international event, unlike the uninvited US invasion force in the south CHINA sea.

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              • #37
                Hi Ferd, How does it feel to be so consistently wrong?

                Poor China. Scolded by the UN like a recalcitrant schoolboy.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Texpat View Post
                  Hi Ferd, How does it feel to be so consistently wrong?

                  Poor China. Scolded by the UN like a recalcitrant schoolboy.
                  Name any Chinese aircraft carrier built before the US military build up in the region.
                  Then look at the new Chinese military bases, all on the oil route the US is threatening.

                  There is no Chinese expansionism, just Chinese defence against American aggression in the region.

                  https://csis-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s...hts_v09n01.pdf

                  You have to read the right hand column of page three, the bit where it explains about China's economic might being an economic problem for the states and notes China's interest in peace.

                  The only threat from China is economic, their military build up being a defence against American expansionism, as we see explained in this US government document.

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                  • #39

                    14th July 2016


                    A Chinese vessel, top center, is used to expand structures and land on the Johnson Reef, called Mabini by the Philippines and Chigua by China, at the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

                    Pic: AP.Facebook page of its territorial claims.

                    Philippines Foreign Secretary Perfecto R. Yasay, Jr. will raise the issue at an Asia-Europe summit to be held in Mongolia on Friday and Saturday, according to a statement released by the Department of Foreign Affairs.

                    asiancorrespondent.com
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                    • #40
                      The US of Arse tells us anyone intent on expansionism in the Pacific by island grabbing is dangerous and must be controlled.
                      Perhaps they're right, especially if you look at American island grabbing in the Pacific.
                      The idiot 'do as I say, not as I do' yanks are the most dangerous force on earth, and have carried out more mass murdering terrorist attacks than any other country, ever.
                      They've murdered their way around the planet, always refusing to committed their proven terrorists to trial.


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                      • #41
                        The greatest nation on Earth gathered up a few specks in the Pacific, only one became a state, while European nations carved up all of Africa. Who is expansionist? Please. Stop embarrassing yourself, Ferd.

                        The US doesn't have to "own" foreign countries like Ireland, Gibraltar, Falklands, Australia etc., to demonstrate it's power.


                        People of the world respect the US without being under its thumb.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Texpat View Post
                          The greatest nation on Earth gathered up a few specks in the Pacific, only one became a state, while European nations carved up all of Africa. Who is expansionist? Please. Stop embarrassing yourself, Ferd.

                          The US doesn't have to "own" foreign countries like Ireland, Gibraltar, Falklands, Australia etc., to demonstrate it's power.
                          The subject is expansionism by China being condemned by America, so your silly attempt at diversion is pointless.
                          America condemns China, but has done worse in the past, especially with the US invasion and annexation of Hawaii where you tossed the government in prison, eventually holding votes but seriously bent ones where only the invading population was allowed to vote.

                          What was that about Chinese expansionism, or has China just gathered up a few specks in the Pacific, all in the South CHINA sea area?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by fred View Post
                            has China just gathered up a few specks in the Pacific, all in the South CHINA sea area?
                            No, China is creating specks in order to claim/grab territory just a few kilometers off the coasts of other sovereign nations -- not America. Imagine if the French claimed the Channel and told Brittles to keep out.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Texpat View Post
                              No, China is creating specks in order to claim/grab territory just a few kilometers off the coasts of other sovereign nations -- not America. Imagine if the French claimed the Channel and told Brittles to keep out.
                              Just as America did, but you forgot to complain about that.
                              Sorry, did I mention Hawaii was a sovereign nation until you invaded?
                              At least China isn't stuffing the rightful rulers in prison in order to steal land, it's creating land in DISPUTED waters, and there's little to say China has less of a claim that anyone else.
                              America is sticking its fat nose into a dispute that has nothing to do with it.

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                              • #45
                                and there's little to say China has less of a claim that anyone else.
                                The Hague , and before you launch into a tirade against the court , I'm not referring to the court per say more the vast body of evidence they used to make their decision .
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