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      Thailand: No Justice 10 Years After Tak Bai Killings
      October 25, 2014

      Failure to Prosecute Officers Undermines Rights Protections in South


      Brad Adams, Asia director
      Thailand in 2004.

      On October 25, 2004,Brad Adams
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        Thai students demand justice 10 years after Tak Bai killings
        October 25, 2014


        Thai students demand justice 10 years after Tak Bai killings Pattani (Thailand)
        (AFP)

        Dozens of students rallied at a mosque in southern Thailand Saturday to demand justice for the deaths of 85 protesters a decade ago, a tragedy rights groups say is fuelling a violent insurgency.

        The anti-government protest on October 25, 2004 in Tak Bai town in Narathiwat province was one of the bloodiest days in a conflict that has left 6,100 people dead in Thailand's Muslim-majority south.

        Seven people were shot dead as security forces broke up the scene, while 78 protesters were suffocated or crushed to death after being stacked on top of each other in army trucks bound for neighbouring Pattani province, their hands bound.

        No one from the security forces has faced charges over the deaths.

        Around 100 Muslim students gathered peacefully inside the courtyard of a mosque in Pattani on Saturday, raising placards asking for justice as well as singing songs and reciting poems and prayers.

        They were planning to stage a flash mob in the streets outside but were warned against a public protest by army officers, said an AFP correspondent at the scene.

        Thailand's military imposed a nationwide ban on political gatherings of more than five people two days before staging a coup in May -- but the southern provinces bordering Malaysia have been smothered by emergency powers curtailing civil liberties for a decade.

        "We want to know why they were transported in that way... Tak Bai victims still haven't received justice," said Chalida Tajaroensuk, director of the People's Empowerment Foundation which organised a seminar about the killings earlier Saturday.

        Human Rights Watch also demanded justice for the victims, questioning why no one had been prosecuted even after a government-appointed committee at the time concluded inappropriate methods were used to break up the rally and transport protesters.

        "Thailand?s failure to prosecute security personnel responsible for the Tak Bai killings is a glaring injustice that brings the police, military, and courts into disrepute," said Brad Adams, HRW Asia director, adding this had "fuelled conditions for the insurgency".

        The lush, forested deep south was an ethnic Malay sultanate until Buddhist Thailand annexed it a century ago, and separatist unrest has simmered ever since.

        Thai security forces stand accused of widespread human rights violations, including arbitrary arrests, abuses and extra-judicial killings.

        Meanwhile the rebels conduct near-daily ambushes or bomb attacks on security forces and terrorise civilians -- both Buddhist and Muslim -- with assassinations and arson attacks.

        Several rounds of peace discussions floundered last year amid political chaos in Bangkok but Thailand's junta chief and new premier has said he is ready to restart negotiations.

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          Women's Groups Mark 11th Anniversary of Mosque Massacre
          28 April 2015



          PATTANIA network of women's rights advocates in Pattani mark the 11th anniversary of a massacre at Krue Se Mosque on 28 April 2015.

          "When there is violence, no matter which side started it first, it always leads to retaliation and another cycle of violence," the statement read."It causes losses to lives and properties of civilians, especially vulnerable groups like women and children."

          The secessionist movement, which has claimed the lives of more than 6,200 people, has been waged by a shadowy network of militant groups seeking to revive the independent Islamic state of Patani that was annexed by Thailand in early 20th century.

          In their joint statement today, the women's groups listed four demands that they believe can help bring an end to the unrest in Thailand's three southern border provinces: "1. Those who use weapons must cease their violence against civilians, especially women and children, and they must cease violent incidents in public areas, such as markets, schools, hospitals, and religious establishments, among others.

          2. In order to prevent misunderstanding from escalating and feeding into cycle of violence, the state must be responsible in finding and presenting facts to the public in cases that terrorize public morale, including: the deaths of children and women, deaths of fighters for human rights, killings with cruel methods, massacre of families, and deaths that are believed to have been caused by state officials' excessive use of force.

          3. The state must be committed to eradicating the culture of impunity by equally protecting the rights of the victims and the accused. It must also compensate victims without discrimination based on race, religion, or social status.

          4. The people of all faiths must have restraint in the face of temptation from violent incidents, regardless of which side commits the acts, in order to prevent the cycle of violence from continuing. All forms of solution must uphold principles of peaceful methods, respect human dignity, and use dialogue to find solutions together."

          The network includes groups like Thai Women Empowerment Funds, Buddhists for Peace Network, Network of Civic Women for Peace, and Narathiwat Muslimah Society.

          After the press conference, the activists gathered at Krue Se Mosque in Pattani to commemorate the siege and assault of the historic building eleven years ago, which left 32 insurgents dead. The massacre is considered one of the earliest and bloodiest incidents in the insurgency, which broke out in the southern provinces of Pattani, Yala, and Narathiwat in 2004.


          Gen. Pallop Pinmanee (far right) inspecting the mosque after the deadly assault, 28 April 2004

          On the morning of 28 April 2004, dozens of young militants armed with machetes, knives, and wooden sticks attacked security checkpoints across the three border provinces in coordinated attack. The ambushes were quickly put down by superior-armed security officers. However, 32 militants stole weapons from a police checkpoint and barricaded themselves in the 300-year-old Krue Se mosque, prompting security officers to surround the building.

          After a seven-hour siege, Gen. Pallop Pinmanee, commander of a local army unit, ordered troops to use maximum firepower - including rocket-propelled grenades - to retake the mosque. The operation killed all 32 insurgents, and devastated the historic building.

          It later emerged that Gen. Pallop's command contradicted his superior commander's order to negotiate with the mosque defenders and find a peaceful solution. He was transferred from the Deep South region on that day, although he retained a position in a counter-insurgency agency and no legal action was taken against him.

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            editorial

            We need to acknowledge ATROCITIES such as Tak Bai

            October 25, 2015

            The government must work to heal the wounds of the past and seal a meaningful peace with ethnic Malays in the far South

            It has been 11 years since that unfor?gettable day but the ghost of the Tak Bai massacre continues to haunt Thailand. And so it should.

            It was on this fateful day 11 years ago when Thai security forces from various agencies and units surrounded a large group of unarmed demonstrators protesting in front of Tak Bai police station - demanding the release of five Muslim defence volunteers who authorities accused of handing over government-issued weapons to insurgents.

            For the five, it was either be killed by the insurgents or surrender their weapons, and the village volunteers chose the latter.

            Realistically, nobody is going to put their lives on the line for the authorities under this or any other scheme, like the Thung Yang Daeng model, that basically involves outsourcing security work to local villagers.

            And it's not because the pay is peanuts (if anything). It's simply that local Malay Muslims, who form about 90 per cent of the two million people in this historically contested region, share the same mistrust of the state as the insurgents and should be able to convince the security chiefs that such a cheap and unsound policy won't work.

            At Tak Bai the authorities were punishing the five villagers for not putting their lives on the line - and then prepared to gun down protesters, seven of whom were shot dead that afternoon. Another 78 died from suffocation after being stacked on the back of military trucks while driven to a regional Army base; one can argue that their deaths were unintentional.

            Then again, not one single official was punished for what had happened. The video footage was clear. These protesters were dragged like dirty rags; many were kicked and punched and the troops had no qualms about doing it while being filmed.

            The thought that such acts would radicalise an entire generation of Patani Malay youths didn't appear to cross their minds, or how damaging their actions would be for a country that loves to preach love, kindness and reconciliation. If anything, the incident as an example of the indifference of the Thai state and public to the plight of ethnic Malay Muslims in this hotly contested area.

            In terms of punishment, the head of the Fourth Army Area was transferred to another post. Some years later, families of the deceased got "compensation" for the death of their sons.

            An opportunity for reconciliation came in 2006 when then Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont apologised for the Tak Bai massacre. But there was no follow-up and Thailand missed a chance to translate that apology into real and meaningful results.

            Today, nine years after Surayud's apology, another military-appointed government is in place. Without a fully functioning Parliament with representatives mandated by the people, the spotlight is squarely on Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha.

            Seminars and public events commemorating the massacre are taking place in Bangkok and in the deep South to remind the world that nothing has been forgotten.

            Another reminder of the tragedy is the daily bombs and ambushes of security forces in the restive region.

            The thing is, the government in Bangkok should know that their peace initiative with the separatists will be meaningless if they can't find ways to come to terms with atrocities of the past, regardless of how unpopular this might be with the rest of the country where people are pretty much indifferent to the plight of the ethnic Malays.

            The state could start by acknowledging past mistakes and following up with events and initiatives to show that they mean it. In most open societies, an atrocity of the scale of Tak Bai would call for a monument to commemorate the tragic incident.

            But something like this requires political courage, which is something that is lacking in Thai leaders.

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              Victims Cannot Forget Tak Bai Tragedy in Thailand
              2015-10-22



              BenarNewsthA pivotal year


              Demonstrators lie on the pavement after their arrest oustide Tak Bai police station in Narathiwat province, Thailand, Oct. 25, 2004.
              [AFP]Not pursuing perpetrators
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              • #8
                Not much done to arraign those responsible when there was an ellected regime, zero chnace of redress now.
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                • #9
                  Tak Bai 12 Years Later: Unhealed Wounds, Justice Denied
                  Thaweeporn Kummetha
                  Mon, 24/10/2016

                  Every year during the month of Ramadan, large crowds of people pass near the border crossing at Tak Bai, going to market to purchase food for the evening meal that breaks the daily fast and crossing the Taba checkpoint into Malaysia to purchase new clothes in preparation for Hari Raya, celebrating the end of Ramadan.


                  Yaena Salaemae in front of the Tak Bai police station, site of the Tak Bai incident

                  As the sun rose on October 25, 2004, the 12th day of the Ramadan fast, the people of Tak Bai District began their normal routines. But this day was to be different. In the morning, a group gathered in a demonstration calling for justice for six Village Security Team members who had been detained. A large number of people who lived nearby went to watch the demonstration, and when those farther away heard what was happening many came in cars and trucks to watch. They had no idea that the events of the day would change their lives forever.

                  In spite of compensation payments, every day, every home, every family continues without justice being done.

                  Yaena Salaemae: Her son detained and charged, her husband murdered


                  Yaena Salaemae at the site of the Tak Bai incident
                  Hayiding Maiseng: Bullet in the back, through the chest



                  Mueyae So: Grieving mother whose son died in great pain

                  A 56 year old housewife, Mueyae So lost her eldest child, still quite a young man.

                  Beginning in the morning, villagers who had passed the Tak Bai border crossing and returned home told others that a great number of people had gathered for some unknown reason near the crossing. She had her son go and see what was happening, and in a little while followed other villagers to have a look. But having gone into the area of the demonstration she was unable to leave. At three in the afternoon the demonstrators were dispersed with water cannon and bullets. Like Yaena, Mueyae was with the women in the back. She ducked down into the river to escape the bullets and became completely soaked and dishevelled.



                  Mueyae So grieves for her son every Month of Ramadan


                  Though the Tak Bai incident left him disabled, Maliki Dolo smiled throughout the interview, because, he says, he has to live with it and live his life.

                  As a result of the long period stacked on the truck bed with others piled on top, Maliki is unable to stretch out his fingers and he has only minimal use of his hands. Simply eating, he says, the spoon slips from his fingers, making him recall the Tak Bai incident at every meal.
                  Maliki spends part of the reparation money to buy a big bike.Tak Bai Factbox The story was written in Thai and available on Prachatai here. English translation provided by the Project for a Social Democracy.

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