Kelantan : Thailand not to blame for HIV cases

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Subra: Proximity to Thailand not to blame for high number of HIV cases in Kelantan
loh foon fong
Thursday November 13, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR: Datuk Seri Dr S Subramaniam on Thursday told Nik Abduh Nik Aziz not to blame proximity to Thailand for the high number of HIV and AIDs cases in Kelantan.

The Health Minister said the PAS Pasir Mas MP should educate them instead, as temptation would always exist in this world.

"It is the individual who makes the choice. I think Pasir Mas MP must go back to Kelantan and educate them and strengthen them mentally, so that despite the temptations there, they will not cross the border and do naughty things," he said at a press conference to a roar of laughter.

Home Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Zahid Hamidi, who was with Dr Subramaniam after the launch of the Malaysia Neuro Symposium: Transformative Technologies, said he shared the same opinion.

On Tuesday, a local news portal reported that Nik Mohamad Abduh had said in a forum said that Kelantan's high incidence of HIV and AIDS cases was due to its close proximity with Thailand, where drugs and prostitutes are allegedly easily available.

He said the PAS-led state government had sought help from Putrajaya to address the problem, including through its MPs in Parliament.

Dr Subramaniam said that it was not possible to ask the Government to create a world free of temptation, saying Kelantan, which was under PAS rule, should be better at educating the people.

thestar.com.my

[peterplonker]

Dude will be dudes, Malaysia or Thailand (or Australia) men are piss weak and need some pussy and as the old saying goes a rampant dick has no conscience, It doesn't care where it goes just that it goes in its little home.
That's why the countries that are mainly Muslim, cant get around the fact that woman ultimately have the power of the pussy.
Nothing stronger, as I tell me daughters, (12 and 10| you have to believe in your self, no matter what this patriarchal society tells you, you will always have the power first as attractive young girls and then as mothers.

[MrBlobby]

Hmm........little head rules the big head

I wonder what little nuggets might be unearthed should we take a few layers off Messrs Nik, Datuk, Subramaniam, and of course the members of the government.

[peterplonker]

Your are dead right mrblob, when I lived in Malaysia the Malaysians were the most frustrated bunch of repressed individuals I have ever met, my wife at that time was Thai and she had to put up, all sorts of questions at immigration, does your husband have a big one and how often do you do it? what sort of immigration official is that?

A plane trip to Hat yai, Friday night after work was sight, a whole plane load of frustrated Malaysians, clambering to get on the bus into town to be the first to get into the massage places.
That was the first time I met farang discrimination at the bar getting a beer was difficult, they wanted to serve big spending Malaysians not kee neeo farangs.

[Panama Hat]

my wife at that time was Thai and she had to put up, all sorts of questions at immigration, does your husband have a big one and how often do you do it?

Suuure . . .

It's got nothing to do with Muslims - how many Australians, Kiwis etc.. flock to Thailand for the same reason?!

And of course you realize that close to 40% of Malaysians are not Muslim

The health minister is quite rightly putting the self-righteous Islamic Party leader in his place.

They have held power in that state (the only one) for a while now and its infrastructure is completely third world and the butt of jokes in the rest of the country.

[peterplonker]

I do understand that, the interrogation at immigration was normally by Bumis who are the most sexually repressed, the story about the Friday exodus to Hat yai was mainly about Malaysian men in general seeking sexual pleasure away from every one,domineering wives in the main.
In general I found Malaysia to be a very repressed country .

Norton was there about the same time, did he have the same views ?

[Panama Hat]

So the questions are real? Amazing. Not unbelievable, just amazing.

The Malays at my word are generally quite ok, most have studied in the UK and worked in the US (Silicon Valley) or Japan etc...

I guess it depends on the ones you meet.

There are so many things wrong with this place, but on the whole it is leaps and bounds better than Thailand, in my opinion

[troy]

I do understand that, the interrogation at immigration was normally by Bumis who are the most sexually repressed, the story about the Friday exodus to Hat yai was mainly about Malaysian men in general seeking sexual pleasure away from every one,domineering wives in the main.
In general I found Malaysia to be a very repressed country .

Norton was there about the same time, did he have the same views ?

I was working in Penang in the mid-90's for a couple of years or so. I don't remember having any issues or thinking they were a repressed lot. There were plenty of "bars" providing girls for those requiring them and I had a pretty good time - well, great time really.

Only a couple of things that got to me - the daily carnage on the roads (saw a death at least once a week) and the mosques' wailing failing to be in synch'.

The "bar-girls" were a pretty clean bunch and so I'm not surprised at the blame being put fairly and squarely on Thailand...

[peterplonker]

Penang has little to do with Malaysia other than they are part of the federation, Penang is largely Chinese and quite different people than the white hatters in the mainland.
I think the thing that actually got up my nostrils was the fact that Bumis were given a free ride while every one else did the work, I had a few friends that had business, hard and were very successful, but always had to have a Bumi front man to get any government work, so the Bumi front man drove the Merc and had the prestige, but the Chinese did all the work

[Panama Hat]

Penang has little to do with Malaysia other than they are part of the federation, Penang is largely Chinese and quite different people than the white hatters in the mainland.
I think the thing that actually got up my nostrils was the fact that Bumis were given a free ride while every one else did the work, I had a few friends that had business, hard and were very successful, but always had to have a Bumi front man to get any government work, so the Bumi front man drove the Merc and had the prestige, but the Chinese did all the work

Ah, the old Bumi 'free ride' nonsense.

Some do, most don't. Same complaining crap by the Chinese - it never ceases to amaze me that anyone takes their whinging seriously.

Our chairman is Indian (neither Muslim, nor Bumi) and we get government work, even state-based. My two fellow Cs are Malay but the company isn't registered as Bumi.

Don't believe everything the whiny Chinese tell you, it's mostly bull - spread as they bribe, lie and cheat their way through the economy.