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  • #46
    DJ and the PM
    ALAN DAWSON
    10 Dec 2017

    On the first Dec 5 National Day of the only active military regime in the world, the United States sent a so typically American message -- "Nice foreign relations we've got here. Be a shame if anything happened to them."

    Not in those words of course. What will happen, according to the warm message of friendship signed by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, is that Thailand's ruling junta and its government will truly gum up the works and toss multiple spanners into the foreign relations machinery if they just do one tiny little thing: reschedule the election for 2019.

    There's not been a secret about this. Butter wouldn't melt in the mouth of DJ Trump (rhymes with "grump") when he talked with the general prime minister. Mr Tillerson also put it in a fatherly way: "We look forward to Thailand holding elections next year." English translation: No election and we're turning the freezer back on, diplomacy-wise.


    When Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha met President DJ Trump at the White House, he promised elections in 2018 and the US is holding him to it.

    Pretty well everywhere else, US officials have talked softly and waved a big stick about it.

    If there's not an election in 2018, it's back to the drawing board and Obama-style blunt criticism of the only army-run national government on earth. There will be sanctions on defence sales and Cobra Gold, long advertised as Asia's largest war games, will assume the importance of a parade ground march-by.

    Despite all that, the regime by every public action and statement is trying hard to come up with excuses for more vote delays. Last week there was open speculation of delaying the vote to 2019. And remember, it has already been delayed to 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

    PM Prayut Chan-o-cha and every talking head down the line have manufactured two current excuses for having to delay a vote again. One is all the darned red tape and paperwork involved in changing the election laws to fit with the military's new constitution. The other is all that armed resistance that's going on.

    Of course there hasn't been a shot fired. Of course the so-called "huge" arms cache found in a Chachoengsao swamp would fit easily in a locker in a hi-so Bangkok gym. Of course no other civilised country has put off elections even when there were actual, real, armed attacks.

    But the threat posed by some hand grenades has the military government terrified. Or so it says.

    Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwon, who is the minister of defence, can't explain how he got a jewellery box full of bling-bling. He can, however, explain in detail how a small bag of grenades and loose bullets threatens national security. Of course he also has been the man behind the steadily evolving explanations of why there was a coup, so on some subjects he's clearly an expert. From here, however, any lengthening of the prime minister's mysterious roadmap would be a serious error -- so serious it could bring punishment. It would raise an obvious question: If a government bragging of its competence can't organise and run an election in a year, just what can it do?

    Until he went to the White House, the dear leader was very coy about elections. He delayed them and delayed them but, to be fair, he never set a date. But DJ Trump got him to sign a promise. He's now hemmed in, on the record, signature at the bottom, with elections within 2018.

    In short, he's at the point that predecessor coup maker Gen Suchinda Krapayoon faced in February 1992 -- completely in the catbird's seat, fully in control and getting popular support with his promise never, ever to be prime minister.

    And all Gen Suchinda did to spark a popular movement that overthrew his junta in the Black May uprising was break his promise.
    Battling cliches have it that past performance is no guarantee of future results, but those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    There's no guarantee that an election delay would cause noticeable kerfuffles on many streets in many Thai cities and towns. There's also no certainty that the general prime minister could come up with an explanation sufficient to cover his extreme lower back area should he try to foist off the fourth delay in free, fair elections.

    The problem in putting off a popular vote to yet another calendar year is that the regime's so-called roadmap is at a dead end. The country might accept another delay without revolt, but no one would believe the excuses any more than they believe Gen Prawit bought that watch on his army pension.

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    • #47
      Anutin did not comment on any relationship.
      Wise not to as he was Thaksin's go between to the Prince.
      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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      • #48


        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.ca169a6c54ac

        Following the commitment of an election date, and other recent developments, even the EU is beginning to see the benefits of what the Junta has done and is doing and will do. And hopefully the new Constitution and the Military's ongoing 'Supervision' will ensure the likes of the Thaksins never again gain power. If you dont think they and their cronies are plotting behind the scenes to try and takeover once 'Democracy' is restored, then you are delusional. The Thaksins 'saw out' the previous Junta after the then PM absconded, and his 'puppet' Sister got elected doing more of the same. This time the Junta is going to ensure they and their likes never again gain power in Thailand.

        Sorry to be positive about the Junta (not really), but they have been good for Thailand. The alternative was not going to be positive at all - internal conflict which would have been seriously inflamed by the recent passing of King Rama IX. Once things settle down the Junta will 'move aside' but they will always be 'watching' and they will have the constitutional power to easily remove any future corrupt Government. Thailand was an absolute Monarchy until the 1930s when the Military 'took over' and removed some of the King's powers, and they have again done the same thing. Thailand has always been 'controlled' by the Military and it should be going forward for the foreseeable future.

        And any bigoted patronising statements by westerners that they know better and 'Democracy is a human right' khrap, aint going to be listened to and aint going to change the way it is in Thailand - and long may that hold true. I dont want Thailand to become like the west. I am living here for a few years (needs must) and I do not like it at all. Admittedly the roads are safer, but the Nanny State controls and oppresses the people here in a far less obvious way, than does the Junta in Thailand. I look around me and all I see are fat ugly unhappy stressed people - the exact opposite to what I see (and feel) in Thailand. What it took to create a society like that (for all its faults) is a good thing, and long may it stay that way. Democracy did not create the Thai society - and it will only change it for the worse if it is not 'controlled' to ensure Thai society's values and morals and principles are not changed.
        If I dont respond it is because: A) Libtard; B) Blocked Libtard; C) Playing Golf

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        • #49
          ^ You should look Terry up. You could be real soul mates.

          If you pool your financial rescourses you could get a nice top of the range Rolex and lend it to Prawit for an indefinite period as a token of your estime for the junta mafia.

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          • #50
            Thai junta says it will lift ban on politics, paving way for election
            December 19, 2017

            BANGKOK (Reuters) -- Thai Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha said on Tuesday he would use a special order that gives the military sweeping powers to lift a ban on political activity that has been in place since a 2014 coup, paving the way for a 2018 general election.

            Major political parties had urged the government for months to lift the ban to allow parties to prepare for the vote and the announcement won some applause from government critics.

            Prayuth, who is also head of the junta, has said that Thailand will hold an election in November 2018 - news that was largely welcomed by investors in Southeast Asia's second-biggest economy.

            "The government will have to use Article 44 to solve this problem (political activity deadlock)," Prayuth told reporters, referring to a constitutional clause that grants the military absolute powers.

            Prayuth did not say when the order would take effect.

            According to the usual procedure, executive orders must be published in the Royal Gazette before they can become law.

            Thanawut Wichaidit, spokesman for the red-shirt United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship which opposes military rule and has made statements critical of the junta, said the announcement was "the first step for elections and democracy".

            "It's definitely a good thing," he said, adding that the junta should also lift a ban on public gatherings.

            The military has been running Thailand since the May 2014 coup when it ousted the civilian government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, ending years of political turmoil, including pro- and anti-government street protests.

            A coup in 2006 ousted Yingluck's brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, whose supporters have dominated the polls since 2001.

            The 2014 coup saw some Western countries downgrade ties with Bangkok. Earlier this month, the European Union said it would resume political contact "at all levels" withThailand after putting relations on hold.


            That announcement came after Prayuth said in October that a general election would he held next November.



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            • #51
              ^

              Prayuth did not say when the order would take effect.
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              • #52
                Freedom of assembly, association ahead of electionmor lam singer (traditional music of the Northeast). The goal of the event was to collect money to help political prisoners in their life after jail.


                Patiphan Luecha performs mor lam to raise fund for political prisoners. The performance was broadcasted live via Facebook
                accusedMoves to amend Organic Act may delay election
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                • #53
                  Human rights defenders submit petition to the Constitutional Court

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                  • #54
                    Democrats, Pheu Thai refuse to confirm anti-military allianceNipit Intrasombat and Chaturon Chaisang, from the Democrats and Pheu Thai respectively, announced in a public seminar that the two key parties might cooperate in the next election in order to prevent an pro-military political partySudarat statedsaid Abhisit.

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                    • #55
                      Thailand announces 2018 general election, many doubtful

                      2018 is shaping up to be a landmark year for Thailand.

                      A new king will be crowned and the military government is planning to hold elections - signalling a return to democracy after a coup three years ago.



                      In the first of our series looking ahead to some of the big stories of next year. Al Jazeera's Wayne Hay reports from Udon Thani, northeast of Thailand, where many are doubtful the vote will go ahead.

                      http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/1...103424552.html
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                      • #56
                        Elections to be held only if there is public order, PM warns
                        December 31, 2017


                        Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha

                        Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha has warned all sides to help ensure public order if they want to see elections.
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                        • #57
                          Hopes of election fade after NLA vote
                          MONGKOL BANGPRAPA & AEKARACH
                          20 Jan 2018

                          Organic law on MPs delayed for 90 days

                          The National Legislative Assembly (NLA) committee vetting the organic law on MP election yesterday voted to delay the law coming into effect for 90 days which may result in the election being delayed until February 2019.

                          Panel spokesman Taweesak Suthakavatin said the majority of the panel voted for the law to be effective only 90 days after it is passed and published in the Royal Gazette, instead of immediately.

                          According to the constitution, an election must be held within 150 days of the required laws, including the MP election law, being promulgated. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has many times insisted that the election will be held in November this year.

                          Mr Taweesak said it is possible that the election will be postponed until early 2019. He insisted that this would not be by the order of the National Council for Peace and Order, led by Gen Prayut.

                          The second and third readings of the organic law on MP election are scheduled for Jan 25.

                          Panel member Sakul Suesongtham, who abstained, said that before three quarters of the panel members voted for the delay, concerns were raised that political parties will have too many procedures to undertake according to the organic law on political parties and the NCPO chief's Order No.53.

                          A minority of panel members, mostly the charter drafters, insisted that the organic law be effective immediately.

                          Jade Donavanik, a charter drafter, said a postponement had been on the cards ever since the NCPO chief's order delaying the recommencement of political activities from January to April was announced.

                          Both Mr Jade and election commissioner Somchai Srisutthiyakorn pointed out that the order actually said the NCPO, the cabinet, the NLA and political parties should discuss solutions in case of any problems. But there has been no such consultation.

                          Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam declined to comment saying an election delay would be an NLA decision, not a government one.

                          Paradorn Prissananantakul, a former Chartthaipattana Party MP for Ang Thong, said although the enforcement of the laws can be legitimately delayed, such a move would directly affect the credibility of the premier.

                          Another ex-MP from the same party, Siripong Angkasakulkiat, said he wants to know exactly when the election will be held so the party can get ready.

                          Korawee Prissananantakul, also a former Chartthaipattana Party MP, said that if everything proceeds in line with the road map, politicians would be able to accept it.

                          He also called on the NLA's scrutiny panel and the government not to regard politicians as their opponents, saying they also need to pay heed to politicians when writing the laws that will govern them.

                          "If you write legislation that makes politicians feel like they are being abused or gives advantage or disadvantage to some political parties, this would risk sparking conflicts in the future," said Mr Korawee.

                          Polphum Wipatphumiprathet, a former Pheu Thai MP for Bangkok, said if the country was in a normal state of affairs, it would not be unusual to delay the enforcement of any laws in order to allow time for people to prepare for or adjust to the new legislation.

                          In this case, however, it is unusual as the law is highly anticipated by all parties, he said, adding that questions must be raised as to whether there is a hidden agenda behind the move.

                          If the NLA's scrutiny panel delays the organic law on MPs taking effect, it shows that the so-called five rivers of power (the NCPO, the cabinet, the NLA, the Constitution Drafting Committee, and the National Reform Steering Assembly) intend to postpone the poll, which would contradict the prime minister's road map, said Mr Polphum.

                          The move may be an attempt to assist emerging parties that will back Gen Prayut to return as premier by affording the PM more time to manoeuvre before the poll, he added.

                          Former Pheu Thai Party MP for Lop Buri Amnuay Klangpha said if the reports are true, questions must be raised about the credibility of Gen Prayut.

                          Such a move would lead to the prime minister losing face, he said. According to Mr Amnuay, people are expecting an election late this year as they believe that a democratically elected government will boost the economy, he noted.

                          Meanwhile, Seri Suwanpanont, a member of the NLA panel vetting the bill on MP election, said this issue has nothing to do with the PM and it is the NLA members who are responsible. He said a three-month delay would not benefit anybody.

                          Under the 2017 charter, an election must take place within 150 days of the organic laws being promulgated. The last bill is likely to be passed in June at the latest, meaning the poll can go ahead as planned in November.

                          If enforcement of the MP bill is delayed by 90 days, the election would then have to take place within 240 days of that, in around February next year.

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                          • #58
                            23 Jan 2018

                            Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has insisted the regime did not order the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) to delay the enforcement of the organic bill on MP elections, which would subsequently push back the general election to February next year.

                            The premier was speaking Monday after a seminar on government agencies and the mobilisation of the national strategy at Impact Muang Thong Thani in Nonthaburi.

                            However, when asked whether the election would take place this year, Gen Prayut refused to comment.

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                            • #59
                              Thai election may face new delay as scandal scrambles junta
                              HIROSHI KOTANI
                              January 24, 2018

                              Military-appointed legislature moves to postpone enforcement of election law


                              Thai's former prime minister and political heavyweight Prem Tinsulanonda, left, meets junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha, right, in Bangkok on Dec. 28, 2017. Prem warned Prayuth that junta is losing the support of the people.
                              (Photo by Hiroshi Kotani)

                              BANGKOK -- Elections paving the way for Thailand's return to civilian rule could face additional delays that give the military junta time to recover from a high-profile alleged corruption.

                              A panel of lawmakers vetting a bill on lower-house parliamentary elections voted for changes that would postpone its enforcement, Thai media report. The bill would take effect 90 days after being published in the country's official Royal Gazette, instead of immediately after publication as is typical.

                              Thailand's military-drafted constitution, approved by the king in April 2017, mandates that elections be held within 150 days of several necessary electoral laws taking effect. Delaying enforcement of one law by three months would slow the entire process, while having the bill take effect immediately would allow for elections by November 2018, when Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has said they will occur.

                              "If the election takes place before November, it's not good for the [military] government," an anonymous source quoted by Thai newspaper The Nation said. "They need time to prepare the budget and bureaucratic transfers. Political parties also need time to prepare for the election."

                              But many remain unconvinced a postponement is needed on administrative grounds. Another source suggested to The Nation that the delay could be a bid to give pro-junta parties time to prepare.

                              Thailand's National Legislative Assembly, whose members are appointed by the junta, is scheduled to vote on the bill Thursday.

                              Protecting the status quo

                              The major divide between Thailand's two main political parties concerns former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The Pheu Thai Party, a descendant of the group founded by Thaksin, dominates the country's north and northeast, while the anti-Thaksin Democrat Party carries the south. But both groups stand firmly against the autocratic military government and have called for a quick return to civilian rule.

                              Yet new groups are expected to spring up in support of sustaining the military's deep involvement in politics and keeping Prayuth -- the retired military officer who leads the junta -- as prime minister after the election. These groups will need all the preparation they can get to face their more established pro-civilian rivals.

                              Taweesak Suthakavatin, a spokesperson for the panel examining the election bill, denied that the junta ordered the changes, according to the Bangkok Post. Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam also insisted the government did not interfere with legislative debate.

                              But the national assembly often is viewed as little more than a rubber stamp for the military government. Many critical of the junta suspect the decision to delay enforcement stems from a covert order, or at least a nudge, by the junta.

                              Scandal's bad timing

                              Elections already are a long time coming. Prayuth, leading a coup in May 2014 when he was the commander in chief of the army, said the junta aimed to hold elections in October 2015. Those did not come to pass, and the military government has held power for nearly three and a half years since formally taking charge in September 2014.

                              But an alleged graft involving Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan has put the government in perhaps its worst position ever to win over supporters, another potential incentive to seek more time to prepare.

                              Prawit, who also serves as defense minister, led Thailand's army for one year starting in October 2004 -- a post later held by Prayuth.

                              He and Prawit -- along with Interior Minister Anupong Paochinda, another former army chief -- are particularly close among the junta's top leadership.



                              But those bonds have been tested since Dec. 4, when Prawit was seen in a photo of Prayuth's reshuffled cabinet wearing what the internet later identified as a luxury Richard Mille watch and a diamond-studded ring estimated to be worth at least 4 million baht ($125,920). Earlier photos of the minister reveal at least 25 high-end watches worth nearly 40 million baht in all -- quite a stretch for someone on a military salary.

                              The watches do not appear on past lists of Prawit's assets. The former general told reporters he had borrowed the watches and wore them only occasionally, insisting he is not a collector. But few are convinced, and Prawit faces growing calls for his resignation.

                              Lackluster response

                              Prayuth also has taken criticism for his response to the scandal. When questioned about the allegations against his deputy, the leader said only that the independent National Anti-Corruption Commission was handling the matter. On Tuesday, he even went on to say that the case is "a personal matter," showing his will to cover for Prawit.

                              Abhisit Vejjajiva, a former prime minister and head of the Democrat Party, has warned Prayuth that the scandal could hurt his credibility and damage his chances of returning to office once elections are held. Polling conducted over the weekend showed the junta chief's approval rating at 37%, down from 53% last May.

                              One expert in Thai politics considers Prawit largely responsible for many of the junta's key activities, such as controlling the military and bureaucracy as well as managing negotiations with Thailand's pro-Thaksin set. If so, the government could have trouble functioning without its chief dealmaker. For a group that blasts traditional politicians as corrupt and touts itself as an exemplar of clean government, the charge of hypocrisy is difficult to avoid.

                              People in Thailand vote during the referendum on a draft constitution at a polling station in Bangkok on Aug. 7, 2016.
                              (Photo by Keiichiro Asahara)

                              Thaksin supporters calling for a thorough investigation may not have been enough to cause problems for the junta, which has largely kept its activities out of the public eye. But high-profile figures seen as pro-junta now are pursuing the allegations including Srisuwan Janya, head of a group seeking to protect the Thai constitution; Rosana Tositrakul, a former senator; and even Pridiyathorn Devakula, a former deputy prime minister under the junta.

                              Not going anywhere

                              Prem Tinsulanonda, a former army commander and prime minister who heads Thailand's Privy Council, also warned Prayuth that he is losing his support base, possibly suggesting the consequences of the latest watch scandal, when top junta leaders visited Prem's home in late December. Prem, calling the prime minister by his nickname "Tu," also encouraged Purayuth that the leader still could win over the public by serving as a good role model.

                              Stock market has not reacted much to the political turmoil so far. The benchmark Stock Exchange of Thailand index is still on the upward trend since beginning of the year, and on Wednesday morning it neared the record high just reached on Jan. 18.

                              Prayuth seems prepared to do whatever it takes to stay in power. Early this month, the leader told reporters he was merely "a politician who used to be a soldier" -- a shocking about-face by a leader who, for much of his tenure, positioned himself in opposition to supposedly corrupt professional politicos. In the second half of 2017, Prayuth began holding cabinet meetings in locations around Thailand, using the occasions to tout measures meant to reinvigorate regional economies.

                              If the national assembly votes to amend the election bill as proposed by the panel, Prayuth will have another year or so to continue what looks very much like a campaign for office. If he remains prime minister into 2019, he also will serve as chair of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations in that year, with all the power and prestige that role carries. How the ongoing scandal plays out will set the course of Prayuth's and Thailand's political future.

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                              • #60
                                EU urges return to democracy
                                AEKARACH SATTABURUTH
                                25 Jan 2018

                                Envoy blasts curbs on media, free speech

                                Pirkka Tapiola of Finland, EU Ambassador to Thailand: Possible to hold elections in 2018
                                (Photo Moldova foreign ministry)

                                The European Union (EU) has urged the regime to ensure a quick return to democracy and stick to its pledge to hold elections in November.

                                The EU ambassador's comment was given a day before the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) will consider Thursday whether to approve the proposal of its panel vetting an organic bill on MPs for suspending the enforcement of the bill for 90 days, consequently postponing the planned election to 2019.

                                "We understand that it is still possible to hold the elections by November 2018 and encourage all stakeholders to respect the previously announced road map for a return to democracy in Thailand, for the benefit of all its people. The EU stands ready to assist Thailand in this endeavour," EU Ambassador to Thailand Pirkka Tapiola said.

                                Mr Tapiola took up his position as ambassador on Dec 10. He formerly was Finland's deputy head of mission to Thailand, from 1998-2001.

                                Mr Tapiola said that the EU does understand the difference between the executive and the legislative branches, which are both essential and independent entities in a democracy. That is why the EU strongly encourages a return to democratic elections in Thailand as early as possible, he said.

                                He was apparently responding to Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai who earlier said the bill's amendment is a matter for the legislative branch while Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha is in the executive branch so the government has noting to do with the proposed change.

                                Among the remaining challenges for the timely preparations of elections were continued restrictions placed on freedom of expression and media, on freedom of assembly and association, and on activities by political parties and civil society organisations, Mr Tapiola said.
                                "As noted also in the EU Foreign Affairs Council Conclusions of December 2017, we call for a lifting of these restrictions as soon as possible," he said.


                                Meanwhile, the Pheu Thai Party on Wednesday issued a statement opposing a decision to delay enforcement of an organic bill on MP elections by an NLA committee vetting the bill.

                                The party's statement called on those in power to stop harming the country and for the regime to return power to the people as promised in the road map for the general election.

                                The majority of the NLA panel vetting the bill last Friday voted for it to take effect only 90 days after it is passed and published in the Royal Gazette, instead of immediately.

                                According to the constitution, an election must be held within 150 days of the four election-related laws being promulgated. It was tentatively scheduled by Gen Prayut for this November.

                                The second and third readings of the organic bill are due to heard today.

                                Pheu Thai said in the statement that the NLA panel's decision has a hidden political agenda to help the regime cling to power beyond this year.

                                The delay is deemed as violating the constitution and is a move to "cheat the law", according to a party statement.

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