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  • #16
    Kra Canal project not on government agenda: Thai PM
    Panu Wongcha-um
    13 Jan 2016

    Privy Councillor Thanin Kraivichien wrote an open letter to the government over the weekend, advocating for the canal's construction.


    A map of the proposed Kra Canal project.

    BANGKOK:Privy Councillor Thanin Kraivichien, 88, wrote an open letter to the government over the weekend, advocating for the canal's construction.
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    • #17
      The Thai Canal that may change Singapore forever
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      • #18
        PRESS RELEASE

        Leading U.S. China Scholar and Official Thai Advisory Board Promote Kra Canal
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mid View Post
          Chew Hui Min
          May 21, 2015

          1. What is the Kra Canal?

          The Kra Canal would cut through Thailand's Kra Isthmus, the narrowest neck of South Thailand, connecting the Gulf of Thailand with the Andaman Sea.

          Approximately 102km long, it could take eight to 10 years to build. Current estimates put building costs at about US$28 billion (S$37 billion).
          Kavi Chongkittavorn
          March 30, 2015

          No issue in Thailand's history has generated such a long and inconclusive debate as the one surrounding the fate of Kra Isthmus. For the past 358 years, since the time of King Narai (1633-1688) when it was first raised with France, the desire to dig the country's small 50-kilometre strip of land down south continues unabated and peppered with John le Carre-liked conspiracy.
          Is it 102 or 50?

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          • #20
            Proposals for the canal in 2015 measure 102 km long, 400 meters wide and 25 meters deep.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Canal
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            • #21
              I've driven the Northern routes a few times. Not very flat as I recall. The number of locks would not only be expensive but also time consuming. A very easy target for extremist groups. Why 400 metres wide? Suez is only 200?

              Wasn't the annexation of the southern provinces by UK to be awarded to Thailand done to prevent such a canal?
              Never knew that Vocal . Any more details?

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              • #22
                Why 400 metres wide? Suez is only 200?
                two way traffic at a guess .

                material that needs to be removed dwarfs both the Suez and the Panama .


                nextbigfuture.com
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                • #23
                  Thailand Should Do Feasibility Study On Thai Canal, Urges China's Expert
                  Mohd Haikal Mohd Isa

                  BANGKOK, Sept 11 (Bernama) -- Thailand should act decisively and start conducting feasibility study on the long-awaited Thai Canal (Kra Canal) as suggested by several of China's experts during a one-day international conference on the canal today.

                  The South East Asian country, according to them, will greatly benefit from the construction of the more than 100km artificial canal which will cut the Kra Isthmus in Songkla/Satun in southern Thailand linking the Indian and Pacific Ocean.

                  The canal, if constructed will see ships bypass the Malacca Straits and save more than 1200km or about three-days of sea journey.

                  "As the development of the Kra Isthmus Canal (Thai Canal) is of great significance to Thailand, it is recommended that the relevant departments of Thailand start the feasibility study of the canal as soon as possible," said Prof Zhou Dawei from Peking University here.

                  He said, the Thai Canal would open up the most spectacular sea corridors in human history, like the Suez and Panama Canals which would connect international maritime channel network.....

                  bernama.com
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                  • #24
                    Will The Thai Government Build Kra Canal?
                    Mohd Haikal Mohd Isa

                    BANGKOK, Sept 24 (Bernama) -- For more than 300 years, the question of whether to build the Kra Canal or not has been discussed and deliberated repeatedly in Thailand without any firm decision taken on the controversial multi-billion dollar project.

                    As China's One Belt One Road (OBOR) initiatives gained acceptance among the regional economies, there seems to be a new and coordinated drive among proponents of the project to push for Kra Canal's speedy realisation.

                    During the recently-held 'International Conference on Technology for Sustainable Paths to Thailand's Future. Kra Canal', several of China's experts as expected, were the most enthusiastic group in lobbying the Thai government to give its blessings on the proposed 130km-long canal.

                    They argued that the Kra Canal or Thai Canal as it is known now, would save shipping cost and valuable time as the canal linking the Indian and Pacific Oceans would cut more than 1,200 km or "two to three days" of a ship's journey without traversing the narrow and congested Malacca Straits.

                    The Chinese experts wanted Bangkok's military-led government "to stop wasting any more time" and to immediately start a feasibility study on the canal, as the first step into fulfilling more than 300 years of a long-awaited dream.

                    "After China proposed the initiative (OBOR), many people in Thailand generally believe that the opportunity to build the canal is coming. The initiative provides a golden opportunity for the Kra Isthmus Canal.

                    "As the development of the Kra Canal is of great significance to Thailand, it is recommended that the relevant departments in Thailand start the feasibility study as soon as possible," said Prof Zhou Dawei from Peking University when tabling a paper entitled, 'The Kra Canal under the Belt and Road Initiative' at the conference.

                    Another expert, Dr Jingsong Zhao in calling for the construction of Kra Canal, said the canal would bring immense benefit to the country and turn it as the new international shipping hub by clustering shipping, trade and financial services in Thailand.

                    The Kra Canal project, according to him, is a "great century project" and would bring significant impact to Thailand not only in the economy, politics, science and technology but would also be strategic in the maritime domain as it connects the Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean.

                    Despite the rosy assessment of Kra Canal from its proponents, critics of the project have "punched a hole" into its economic viability as the canal, located in southern Thailand's Kra Isthmus, according to them, would only save 1,200 km of sea journey, compared to "saving" 10,000 km for the Suez Canal and 7,000 km for the Panama Canal.

                    The economic benefits would be negligible, they said.

                    The critics have always counter-argued the economic benefits from Kra Canal as "too small" to justify its exorbitant price tag, with experts estimating the 130km-long canal to cost between US$30 billion to US$50 billion or more to build, depending on the width, depth and route of the canal.



                    Meanwhile, Kra Canal Study Team head, Pakdee Tanapura has allayed the much talked about fears of the possible negative impacts of the canal on regional countries, especially Singapore which depend heavily on maritime trade.

                    While Thailand will derive many economic advantages associated with the construction of Kra Canal, the multiplier effect from the mammoth project, according to him, will be too enormous and benefit the whole South-East Asian economy.

                    "South-East Asia will be the economic hub of of the world," said the long-time advocator of the Kra Canal.

                    Despite the fears of its impact to neighbouring countries, Pakdee said finding an alternative shipping route to Malacca Straits was actually long overdue as the straits where 20 percent of world's trade passed was just "several more years" from nearing its saturation point.

                    He cited a study by the Maritime Institute of Malaysia (MIMA) which pointed out that the straits could only accommodate a maximum quantity of 122,000 ships per year, while the World Bank estimated that 122,640 ships would navigate the straits by 2020.

                    The Kra Canal, he said, would divert much of the current congestion in the straits and minimise the risk of ship collisions as what happened between the United States' Arleigh Burke guided-missile destroyer, USS John S.McCain and Liberia-registered merchant vessel last month, which killed 10 US navy personnel.

                    bernama.com
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                    • #25
                      The critics have always counter-argued the economic benefits from Kra Canal as "too small" to justify its exorbitant price tag, with experts estimating the 130km-long canal to cost between US$30 billion to US$50 billion or more to build, depending on the width, depth and route of the canal.
                      Plenty of 'benefits' to be had in form of commissions, a welcome opportunity for Thai decision-makers, I would have thought.
                      Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
                      What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.


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                      • #26
                        Singapore is lobbying hard to prevent such a canal.
                        God, the panic within the Dems, MSM, and left must be horrifying...realizing that Joe is really the best they've got.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by serrollt View Post
                          Plenty of 'benefits' to be had in form of commissions, a welcome opportunity for Thai decision-makers, I would have thought.
                          Isthmus comes early for some
                          The world is round but the universe is flat.

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                          • #28
                            Minister: No word from Thailand yet on Kra Canal
                            martin carvalho
                            Tuesday, 14 Nov 2017



                            KUALA LUMPUR:
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                            • #29
                              He said the area did not have deep sea port capabilities, and it could not get the banking and finance support.
                              Yep, and the Generals were still fighting over get's the grease...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Boon Mee View Post
                                Singapore is lobbying hard to prevent such a canal.
                                Business is business and nobody in Thailand will care unless someone pays them to care.
                                The Singapore question is nothing when compared to the US's objections as that country would lose any hope of being able to blockade Chinese oil if China build the waterway.
                                At the moment the more hawkish in the have a great tactical advantage as they can turn off Chinese oil supplies with ease but the canal would be a game changer.
                                The US will do all it can to destroy the plan.

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