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  • #16
    Minimum wage legislation will come into effect on 1st January in Germany.

    - a lousy 8.50 Euros/hour before deductions, but still, it's a start.
    Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
    What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.


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    • #17
      Originally posted by serrollt View Post
      Minimum wage legislation will come into effect on 1st January in Germany.

      - a lousy 8.50 Euros/hour before deductions, but still, it's a start.
      Obviously you failed economics 101 miserably.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by socal View Post
        Obviously you failed economics 101 miserably.
        Your drug-induced selfconfidence hardly compensates for your reading-comprehension and learning deficits.

        Have you considered private 'special' schooling? I am sure the nanny-state would support you financially through it.
        Originally posted by Ergenburgensmurgen;n186588
        What are you talking about, I don't post on Teakdoor.


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        • #19
          It is funny how Socal now uses some of the worlds greatest "Nanny States" as examples of his understanding of World economics. While Singapore and the gulf states have a well measured and manicured national policy of keeping the unskilled, uneducated socals in their impoverished place. What a hypocrite.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Delayed View Post
            It is funny how Socal now uses some of the worlds greatest "Nanny States" as examples of his understanding of World economics. While Singapore and the gulf states have a well measured and manicured national policy of keeping the unskilled, uneducated socals in their impoverished place. What a hypocrite.
            Umm creditor nations maybe ? Despite some of them being nanny states , at least they are creditors.

            So watch your reasoning. Econ 101 might disappoint you

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            • #21
              Originally posted by socal View Post
              Singapore no laws or regulations

              Qatar none

              Norway none

              Germany no statutory minimum wage
              Italy none
              Top 4 richest countries in the world per capita. (World bank)
              1 Qatar 98,948 2011
              2 Luxembourg 80,559 2011
              3 Singapore 59,710 2011
              4 Norway 53,396 2011

              17 Germany 38,077 2011
              29 Italy 30,464 2011
              That shows how much you really know Socal. Singapore's economy is based on low wages - very easy for MNC's: most young remain at home until they are married and therefore receive a lesser wage than they otherwise would. Qatar is oil-rich with a small population so what else would you expect? Norway too has massive oil reserves. As for Germany you should look up the culture before sounding off about no statutory minimum wage. You are doing nothing other than qouting figures of which have little or no understanding. Not e: there are various ways of calculating how rich a country is example: Singapore is said to be the most expensive country in the world in which to live (recent survey). My statement? Pointed out by neigbours wife - she is a Singaporean and a qualified economist.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Ronin View Post
                That shows how much you really know Socal. Singapore's economy is based on low wages - very easy for MNC's: most young remain at home until they are married and therefore receive a lesser wage than they otherwise would. Qatar is oil-rich with a small population so what else would you expect? Norway too has massive oil reserves. As for Germany you should look up the culture before sounding off about no statutory minimum wage. You are doing nothing other than qouting figures of which have little or no understanding. Not e: there are various ways of calculating how rich a country is example: Singapore is said to be the most expensive country in the world in which to live (recent survey). My statement? Pointed out by neigbours wife - she is a Singaporean and a qualified economist.

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                • #23
                  Citing Qatar as a prime example is simply . . .


                  socal and his 'I saw pictures in an article' logic

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by socal View Post


                    Do read what I said your lack of comprehension is unbelievable - where did I say anything about the government?

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                    • #25
                      "50% Of American Workers Make Less Than $28,031 A Year."

                      If not content about it, they should be getting up off their butts and doing something about it.
                      Learn a new skill. Get a better job. Do what needs to be done but quit blaming the system.
                      The person to blame is found in the mirror. Only he/she can fix it.
                      Maybe that belongs in the best advice I ever received thread.
                      Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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                      • #26
                        In many cases working will lower their net income, or will be viewed as a lot of effort for very little benefit. Better to squirt out a few more chillins.

                        Further, being poor makes them victims -- which in turn makes them heroes. That's right, victims are America's new heroes.

                        It's a full-on Nanny state. Half of the citizens pay NO federal tax. Read this:

                        Why work if I make $1,800 a month in unemployment benefits?Did you look for work during the week?NoWOULD YOU WORK IF YOUR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS EQUALED HALF YOUR EARNINGS?

                        $1,800 equals $21,600 a year in unemployment benefits. President Obama has graciously allowed all Americans to collect up to 99 weeks, or $44,550 in unemployment benefits during this time. It looks like benefits will gradually be reduced down to 92 weeks or less, but either way, anything more than 52 weeks is better than a kick in the face.
                        If you make $44,000 a year, which is the income level you need to have in order to qualify for maximum benefits, would you bother finding another job making $35,000-$44,000 a year if you could make $21,600 a year and do nothing?

                        Earning money under the table is rampant.THERE ARE STATES WITH EVEN BETTER UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS!$2,100 a month! If a husband and wife can move to Hawaii, have no rent or mortgage and collect $4,200 a month for 99 weeks, I dare say that life would be the envy of many!

                        I dare say that life would be the envy of many!
                        http://www.financialsamurai.com/best...ment-benefits/

                        I would say at least a third of America is milking the Obamalove. I personally know several. Work a year, take two years off.
                        Last edited by Texpat; 10-29-2014, 04:10 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Norton View Post
                          "50% Of American Workers Make Less Than $28,031 A Year."

                          If not content about it, they should be getting up off their butts and doing something about it.
                          Learn a new skill. Get a better job. Do what needs to be done but quit blaming the system.
                          The person to blame is found in the mirror. Only he/she can fix it.
                          Maybe that belongs in the best advice I ever received thread.
                          The usual narrow-minded view; learning a new-skill not only requires research but invariably money. How do you get a better job if there aren't any? How do you know what needs to be done? There is such a thing as a poverty trap of which it appears you know nothing.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ronin View Post
                            The usual narrow-minded view; learning a new-skill not only requires research but invariably money. How do you get a better job if there aren't any? How do you know what needs to be done? There is such a thing as a poverty trap of which it appears you know nothing.
                            You don't know jack about me but claim I know nothing about the poverty trap. I do and conclude it is a trap easily escaped if one wants to escape. Just takes effort and dedication. Thousands, perhaps millions escape the so called trap all the time. These are the ones who refuse to remain victims of the system.

                            Finding what needs to be done not much research involved. Try help wanted in your area. Pretty much spells out what skilled jobs are available.

                            Once established go and acquire the skill. In the US there are all sorts of free skills training programs. Here is but one.

                            http://losangeles.jobcorps.gov/vocations.aspx

                            Not easy. Might have to work for nothing for a bit. Might have to take lower salary to start than you like. Might have to move. Hell might even have to get a job in a fast food joint but all can lead to a salary far above $28k per year.

                            Texpats reply above is the "reason" many prefer to remain in the under $28k income. Victims of the system. Stuck in the poverty trap. These are a result of years of government handouts to those who don't need it. Very addictive and hard to break out of it but saying it's impossible is simply nonsense unless one wants to use the poverty trap as an excuse for their own behaviour.
                            Last edited by Norton; 10-29-2014, 07:51 PM.
                            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Norton View Post
                              You don't know jack about me but claim I know nothing about the poverty trap.

                              You clearly don't: I don't what systems exist in the US but free training programs here in the UK are a farce aimed merely at reducing the unemployment figures! Little doubt it is much the same in the US but then you are so right-wing you just take the governments word for it - when it suits you of course.

                              I do and conclude it is a trap easily escaped if one wants to escape.
                              A statement like that proves yourself a fool who is easily foolded but then of course Americans like many Britons don't paying for something. In my own circumstances there is no end of evidence that shows poverty is not easily escaped but then you know Jack s** about that and wouldn't want to.

                              Ps: What are the resultant qualifications (certificates acquired from the courses on that link you quoted - haven't looked in detail - no time at present?)

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                              • #30
                                Child poverty rates have risen in the world's richest countries.

                                "In the United States, where extreme child poverty has risen more in this slump than during the recession of 1982, social safety nets provided key support to poor working families but were less effective for the jobless ultra-poor, UNICEF said.
                                Child poverty has increased in 34 out of 50 U.S. states since the start of the crisis. In 2012, 24.2 million children were living in poverty, a net increase of 1.7 million from 2008, the study showed."
                                http://america.aljazeera.com/article...recession.html

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                                You can have all the training programs in the world, but when there are no jobs, this causes a big problem. When people are getting laid off every day this definitely causes poverty. When even educated people can't find jobs or jobs that are well paying this causes poverty. It really is a vicious cycle. I know many people out of work in the US and in Canada, and even people who are highly educated can't find jobs in their field.

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